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Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« on: February 03, 2018, 09:27:45 PM »
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... because nobody knows how much wpf they have after PT, PD and armor penalties are applied.

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 10:18:50 PM »
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and I feel fine with that tbh.

Better let some exact game mechanics be hidden
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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2018, 11:04:26 PM »
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and I feel fine with that tbh.

Better let some exact game mechanics be hidden

Cause not even the devs know what the real answer is.

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 11:08:23 PM »
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and I feel fine with that tbh.

Better let some exact game mechanics be hidden

"Read" the code if you wanna know right? ^^
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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 11:57:29 PM »
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There used to be a tampermonkey/greasemonkey script written by San to do just this.  Does not appear to work anymore though.  Here's what it looks like.

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 12:52:02 AM »
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Well, there would still be many secrets and wonders left in crpg to feed our imagination...

However, I think if the whole system, including damage calculations, armor effect etc. would be more transparent, maybe there would be less uneducated whining about supposedly OP weapons and consequently less unneeded "balancing". Besides, if devs would be forced to understand the system, they wouldn't need item balancers to hang around on servers using their "show names cheat" all the time to get questionable results, because they could simply calculate stuff.

There used to be this excellent online character planner and damage calculator tool. Shame it's not there anymore.

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2018, 08:07:10 AM »
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and I feel fine with that tbh.

Better let some exact game mechanics be hidden

Why on earth would you be opposed to seeing your effective wpf with your stats?
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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2018, 11:57:02 AM »
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This and many other hidden things like the minimum required wpf per Power Throw skill.
And the many other hidden features.

After 8 years playing cRPG I still don't know if it is 12 or 13 per skill, yet I still have message "your proficiency in throw is too low".

So except devs that get access to the formulas and some few privileged, the rest are fooled.
And for sure if I was a dev I would divulge these information, that's probably why I never became one.

Another example, that's only few person know, on DTV you don't need to have Athletics and Riding, if you invest all your points in Riding you get hidden Athletics points to the same amount.

thanks to chadz who always made it trouble and secret, even after we, the community, invested for one of his project.

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2018, 12:45:43 PM »
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You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2018, 02:04:35 PM »
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Why on earth would you be opposed to seeing your effective wpf with your stats?

That would cause a shitstorm of threads because people would realize the heavy gauntlets are ruining effective wpf for any non-pure STR build.
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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2018, 03:39:24 PM »
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We deserve the truth. A good chunk of the formulas are outdated, and it's been 8 years nearly in the dark when it comes to penalties and damage formulae because of how often they changed.

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2018, 05:41:26 PM »
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Another example, that's only few person know, on DTV you don't need to have Athletics and Riding, if you invest all your points in Riding you get hidden Athletics points to the same amount.

I forgot all about that. Used to actually make sense since any cav build would be severely nerfed in the old dtv, being unable to actually be a "cav" build and all. Now that you can ride horses this seems a tad OP, rofl.
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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 05:24:03 AM »
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That would cause a shitstorm of threads because people would realize the heavy gauntlets are ruining effective wpf for any non-pure STR build.

That would be fucking hilarious, I don't know why you don't want to see this.
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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2018, 04:53:04 PM »
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And another thing: why aren't we allowed to see how much damage we deal? Why was it disabled a long time ago? What are you hiding from us? Damage display used to be our birth-right since the original M&B, and yet, after many years of darkness and deception, we have almost forgotten that it ever existed. We are human beens for christ's sake! You can't treat us like that!

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Re: Display effective wpf under "gear" on the website
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2018, 04:29:13 PM »
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Seriously, why was damage display removed again?