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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2014, 09:35:21 PM »
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They must like your culture more than their own.
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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2014, 07:57:22 AM »
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If you want to have with political infighting, pain and suffering base it on the holy roman empire all those chimps did was run from one end to the other beating up whichever half the empire thought it could rise up in revolt while the army was busy fighting in the other half.
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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2014, 08:31:10 AM »
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The funny thing is, when you mentioned an Empire in a fictional universe, the Malazan Empire is what came to mind. Erikson has his faults, but he's built a sound framework for the emergence of several empires in his fiction. K.J Parker's Folding Knife is pretty great about that, too.

However, I would recommend reading Guns, Germs, and Steel as well as War and Peace and War to get a broader picture of empire. If you prefer listening to reading, Dan Carlin's podcasts are pretty great.
The post after I mention Malazan is from you! Hah, I'm glad you joined in. And I'm indeed inspired by the Malazan Empire but I'm also working hard on making it not just a ripoff of his series.
By the way, I see 'Linebreakers' in your signature. Is that something off the Malazan universe? I'm currently on book 4 so I wouldn't know really. I plan on implementing a division called Linebreakers, that's why I'm curious.
And thanks for the recommendations.
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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2014, 02:03:49 AM »
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The post after I mention Malazan is from you! Hah, I'm glad you joined in. And I'm indeed inspired by the Malazan Empire but I'm also working hard on making it not just a ripoff of his series.
By the way, I see 'Linebreakers' in your signature. Is that something off the Malazan universe? I'm currently on book 4 so I wouldn't know really. I plan on implementing a division called Linebreakers, that's why I'm curious.
And thanks for the recommendations.

It's from a K.J Parker novel, actually. The Company. Though I did consider 'Bonehunters' quite seriously.

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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2014, 07:51:36 AM »
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It's from a K.J Parker novel, actually. The Company. Though I did consider 'Bonehunters' quite seriously.

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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2014, 04:28:29 PM »
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They must like your culture more than their own.
Say that to Khengis Khan and its horde. They just slaughtered everyone, til only their culture was left in the Empire.

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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2014, 09:13:45 PM »
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Say that to Khengis Khan and its horde. They just slaughtered everyone, til only their culture was left in the Empire.

In fact, it's not true. Especially in Asia. China (and Japan) was pretty influenced by Mongol culture. And invaders themselves have been influenced by local cultures.
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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2014, 10:08:03 PM »
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Well now you are just failing to see the point again and went offtopic. You stated that the "invaders" culture has to be more liked. And I stated that Khengis just murdered everyone who didnt like the mongol culture. I didnt argue with you about how similar the japanese, mongol or chinese cultures are. Ofcourse they borrowed from eachothers cultures. That doesnt mean they like eachother or accepted the others rule so easly. Japan and Chinese have similar cultures, that doesnt mean they like eachother. India and Pakistan have similar cultures, they dont like eachother. NK and SK have similar cultures, they dont like eachother...etc, you get the point.

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Re: How does an empire emerge?
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2014, 09:01:10 PM »
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They did not really "like" mongol culture, but most of them, from West to East, were fascinated by them. By their kind of purity and simplicity.
That's the main difference between a civilized empire and a barabarian empire.
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