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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2014, 01:23:11 PM »
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That's a shame, missing out of alot of interesting stuff. The Romans, Greeks etc. Not to mention the Viking ages which I'm sure alot of young boys are gonna find interesting.

Yep :(

I think we did the Romans in primary school when i was 8 lol, but not convinced it was part of the curriculum. For Romans you really need to just read or watch documentaries until you get more freedom over what you can study in the UK.

Young lads are definately keen on Vikings and that type of culture, wish they could add so much to the curriculum. But at the same time the more complex or less well documented periods in history (like the 'Dark Ages' in England where we mainly encountered vikings) would be harder for younger people to get actively involved with other than the general 'this period was cool' which most young people know already from games, tv and films.

I always loved history and still regret not pursuing it past GCSE but back then I didn't want to do an A level in it because my god I find the Russian revolution and rise of einstein bloody boring and that was 90% of the course. Give me anything pre-20th century and I'd have found it more interesting.

I nearly didnt take history to a-level just because it's the same WW2 and Russian revolution stuff you do at GCSE. But at the last minute my history department managed to get permission to move to a different experimental exam board that let them have more choice. When i heard we'd be studying the ending of Roman Britain, the Anglo-Saxons, China under Mao and early US history i changed my mind and took it. Lucky i did or i'd have never done archaeology at uni.
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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2014, 01:36:50 PM »
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I nearly didnt take history to a-level just because it's the same WW2 and Russian revolution stuff you do at GCSE. But at the last minute my history department managed to get permission to move to a different experimental exam board that let them have more choice. When i heard we'd be studying the ending of Roman Britain, the Anglo-Saxons, China under Mao and early US history i changed my mind and took it. Lucky i did or i'd have never done archaeology at uni.

Lucky bugger! I wish my department had done the same. My sister also ended up doing archaeology but she hated the Russian revolution and rise of H.itler stuff more than I would have I think.

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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2014, 01:44:51 PM »
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Lucky bugger! I wish my department had done the same. My sister also ended up doing archaeology but she hated the Russian revolution and rise of H.itler stuff more than I would have I think.

I can see why it's important, but it shouldnt form the entire basis of your curriculum from the ages of 14-18 in the UK.

The problem is that 'history' is an entire subject at school, whereas to me there's a huge difference between prehistory, classical/early medieval, later medieval/renaissance/industrial and then more modern history. As disciplines you study them in totally different ways (prehistory is as different from WW2 and Russian Revolution to me, as chemistry is from physics) but you're forced to do just one, and ignore whole areas till you have your own choice in later life.

It's like anything pre-1066 AD is forbidden knowledge that requires you to be over the age of 18 to study in depth.
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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2014, 01:47:12 AM »
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i considered archaeology at uni but decided that path wasn't for me :P

I had a great history teacher, he was a DR which was odd for our school but our A-level consisted of the usual build up to world wars and it had a lot of focus on the Cold war but we also covered the Middle east in depth and the Irish troubles and the rise of the independence movement Fenian bastards!


The Irish and middle east parts were really interesting and my course work was on Charlemagne (go modern world history rite). Luckily you just need to pick up a few books and watch some documentaries to learn more about History.

Books i can recommend at least are Empire by Nial Ferguson (about the rise and decline of the British Empire ofc) and A great and terrible king by marc morris (about Edward the first ((longshanks from braveheart)

Speaking of books i think schools should add some of the great historical fiction books to required reading, Hell just give them some Cornwell to read in English class and they will probably want to learn history :D Tell them Game of Thrones is "loosely" based on the War of the Roses and im sure some will try to learn about that too

Some pretty nice books. Trying to work my way through Herodotus and 8 volumes of Decline and Fall of the roman empire by gibbon (boy that's some archaic language and not easy going)

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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2014, 02:26:39 AM »
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Speaking of books i think schools should add some of the great historical fiction books to required reading, Hell just give them some Cornwell to read in English class and they will probably want to learn history :D Tell them Game of Thrones is "loosely" based on the War of the Roses and im sure some will try to learn about that too

The real question is are the current required reading books in English bad cos they're bad, or bad cos they're required reading? If Cornwell became required reading in English and people were forced to analyze his writing style and scribble notes on every little thing i reckon people would just end up hating Cornwell xD i know i didnt think much of Shakespeare till i came across plays we never had to study to death at school.

But yeah, there are some great books out there if people want to get involved out of their own interest, it's just a shame that there's so little diversity in the standard curriculum though, you generally dont know if you'll find something interesting unless you already have a basic working knowledge or set of expectations for it.

The biggest thing from uni i miss is the e-library, endless online books, journals and articles on any historical period i had any interest in, and all very up to date with the most recent publications. Sucks going back to wikipedia after uni as your main source for on-the-fly searching.
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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2014, 08:21:28 PM »
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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2015, 12:09:15 AM »
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Definitely my favorite history podcast. You may like Common Sense, too, though it's more likely to piss you off.

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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2015, 12:17:42 AM »
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Common Sense is just great, I've found it completely mirrors my personal political leanings.

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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2015, 02:31:59 AM »
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Common Sense is just great, I've found it completely mirrors my personal political leanings.

That's part of the problem, though. Even if you agree with his sentiments, he brings up facts that can't help but enrage you.

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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2015, 01:42:10 PM »
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Common Sense is just great, I've found it completely mirrors my personal political leanings.

I know you're referring to the show 'Common Sense', but if you werent this would be the perfect quote for any political internet debate ever when someone invokes 'common sense'.
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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2015, 07:45:43 PM »
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That's part of the problem, though. Even if you agree with his sentiments, he brings up facts that can't help but enrage you.
Yes, hence I've stopped reading the amount of newspapers I used to when it started to influence my mood negatively.
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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2015, 12:14:53 PM »
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Wtf 3 hours or so. Impossibro to sit thru
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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2015, 12:55:04 AM »
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Wtf 3 hours or so. Impossibro to sit thru

Like most podcasts, it's not really about sitting through it. You simply listen to it on your commute to work, while you're working out, cooking dinner, pulling weeds, etc. It makes chores fly by pretty quick.

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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2015, 01:17:08 AM »
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new episode out : dchha55_Blueprint_for_Armageddon_VI

says the release data was may 5th, I missed it somehow..

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Re: Hardcore History
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2015, 01:42:38 AM »
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Thanks for letting me know! I missed it too.

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