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Offline Casimir

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Re: Agincourt
« Reply #165 on: August 31, 2015, 04:38:11 AM »
Irrelevant, everyone hates the English. Even your own neighbours, they probably more than anyone.

50% of the English hate the other 50% and within those 50% most of them hate each other as well.

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Re: Agincourt
« Reply #166 on: August 31, 2015, 06:33:53 PM »
A test using a 75 lb longbow, to simulate a 100lb longbow, which was way below the wieght of the warbow anyway. Add in the fact the heavier draws were effective because used much heavier arrows, please do some proper research if you doubt this, and you have a test using a .22 calibre rifle with .22 ammo, to simulate a .303 firing .22 ammo, the work out whether a .50 cal firing .50 cal ammo would do something. If you cannot see the absurdity of this I give up.

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Re: Agincourt
« Reply #167 on: September 04, 2015, 01:27:06 PM »
The biggest problem I have with simulating a high poundage bow at distance with a lower draw weight at almost point blank is the impact angle. The short distance shot has a perfect 90 degree angle that penetrates the front vertical part of the armor. In reality the only parts that could be hit with such an perfect angle on distance(air friction) are the shoulder parts of the armor and the helmet - areas that would be exceptionally thick for obvious reasons(melee). Other parts would be hit in a less-than-ideal way with then increased effective armor thickness and would lead to more bounce-offs than the point blank test suggests.

On the other hand at close distance the inner oscillation of an arrow should be way bigger than after 100 yards which could occationally lead to bounce offs that wouldn't happen with a settled down arrow at distance. This one is highly speculative though and probably depends on a lot factors like oscillation frequency compared to the translational velocity.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2015, 01:35:04 PM by Paul »

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Re: Agincourt
« Reply #168 on: September 17, 2015, 03:02:10 PM »
An interesting discussion on Agincourt battle.