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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2016, 12:27:47 AM »
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I can kill an unarmed/helmetless person in 2 punches. Same if they're in peasant gear.

3-5 good hits in the 30-36 range of body armour if that's what you mean when you say medium armour.

You wont do a ton of damage vs heavier armour, but even vs 70+ body armour you can stagger them every time if you're high str with Heavy Gaunts. That's cos it's blunt damage. And you can whittle them down or finish off guys that are injured.

So, very good choice for some trolly fun :)

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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2016, 12:29:59 AM »
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So, very good choice for some trolly fun :)

It's actually pretty effective in maps with blind corners and small rooms. In open maps you need the agility or expect to be simply S-keyed to death by everyone cos you'll never catch them if you have enough Str to do real damage.

I used to bring a sidearm in case i was in a position too small to swing my Great Long Bardiche, but then i realised my punches were actually stronger and harder to block (either cos people dont expect it, or think they'll just poise through and spam you to death).
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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2016, 12:28:46 AM »
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Formula goes like this;

((Hand Armor weight)*(Power Strike level)*(%8))/((Target Armor)*(Armor Weight)

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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2016, 10:57:19 AM »
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I can kill an unarmed/helmetless person in 2 punches. Same if they're in peasant gear.

3-5 good hits in the 30-36 range of body armour if that's what you mean when you say medium armour.

You wont do a ton of damage vs heavier armour, but even vs 70+ body armour you can stagger them every time if you're high str with Heavy Gaunts. That's cos it's blunt damage. And you can whittle them down or finish off guys that are injured.

(maybe it's due to the animation, but i never glance on an overhead punch. Whilst even with 16 PS i can glance with a weak blunt weapon cos footwork is usually more of a factor here.)

I can confirm that. Me and Fuma were full str naked troll punchers once(45 STR 0 PS +3 heavy gauntlets), and we killed lots of heavily armoured ppl with our boxing skills.

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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2016, 11:54:04 AM »
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I think when I coded the unarmed damage on_hit-trigger I made it so that you can even knock out heavy(head) armoured guys given heavy gauntlets, enough strength and a shitload of hits. Iirc it basicly takes the raw(i.e. pre-armour) damage of a punch and does some custom  calculation using helmet armour of the victim and gauntlet weight of the attacker, bypassing the native armour damage calc. The whole thing was meant to give the chamberblock-elite a way to skillztroll.
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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2016, 11:12:32 PM »
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Formula goes like this;

((Hand Armor weight)*(Power Strike level)*(%8))/((Target Armor)*(Armor Weight)

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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2016, 11:21:56 PM »
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I think when I coded the unarmed damage on_hit-trigger I made it so that you can even knock out heavy(head) armoured guys given heavy gauntlets, enough strength and a shitload of hits. Iirc it basicly takes the raw(i.e. pre-armour) damage of a punch and does some custom  calculation using helmet armour of the victim and gauntlet weight of the attacker, bypassing the native armour damage calc. The whole thing was meant to give the chamberblock-elite a way to skillztroll.
can u just show us the f*****ing formula like San was showing us?? im just fucking curious how plong plonk is working(fists daamage) how PS+gauntlets(medium or heavy gauntlets) vs medium armor(+- sweet spots) or versus heavy amrors(how fucking raw Power Strike is working?) hmmm so much raw data to describe please mr. buahahahahhahahahahaalancer can u fucking show us data/formula ??

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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2016, 11:32:00 PM »
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No, I don't remember the formular and the files/access is on my mothballed pc. I also don't negotiate with terrorists.

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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2016, 11:49:11 PM »
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So, very good choice for some trolly fun :)

Yup, I've killed people in plate with heavy gauntlets in the past, 36 STR
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Re: Questions about unarmed
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2016, 02:56:02 PM »
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the f*****ing formula like San was showing us?? im just fucking curious
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