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[GUIDE] Toffi's cavalry guide (big update)
« on: June 30, 2011, 05:29:38 PM »
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Toffi's cavalry guide

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This is a guide which helps you playing as 1h cavalry, 2h cavalry or lancer.

Updated end of June 2012. Carefull, pictures and videos inside  :o

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Credits: big thanks goes out to Assarhaddon, Leed, Torben & Merc_Chris for helping me, their advices appear in blue colour

If you are curious how cool jousting can be, check out this thread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2440.0.html
« Last Edit: June 20, 2012, 02:23:20 PM by Toffi »

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 02:24:17 AM »
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The 24:12 Cav Build

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For real killing power when your on the floor or for the discerning cavalier who likes to wear plate and survive, this setup allows you high HP, the ability to use the most popular horses (Courser, Arabian and Destrier) as well as shield skill.

A wonderful build that performs really well on both the horse and on the ground, if you know how to handle your horse you can lance with the big boys and come out on top, and when your down you'll still 1hit a lot of players.

You can remove the shield skill and max iron flesh if your not interested in a shield and then you can really tank other players!
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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 04:50:42 PM »
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The 24:12 Cav Build

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For real killing power when your on the floor or for the discerning cavalier who likes to wear plate and survive, this setup allows you high HP, the ability to use the most popular horses (Courser, Arabian and Destrier) as well as shield skill.

A wonderful build that performs really well on both the horse and on the ground, if you know how to handle your horse you can lance with the big boys and come out on top, and when your down you'll still 1hit a lot of players.

You can remove the shield skill and max iron flesh if your not interested in a shield and then you can really tank other players!

okay that seems interesting, but not really for beginners I think, because 1. they can't afford to ride on a horse and wear plate, 2. they usually don't know how to handle the horse from the first day on. But for some experienced players I agree :D

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 05:58:30 PM »
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Very nice guide, If you accept some suggestion if I were you I would have added something more about general tipes of enemies, for exemple how to deal with a 2h/bow/pole users alone
A few raw information that I would write about are: spinning left and right when charging an archer that is ready to shot at you(w+a and d alternately)so that he most likely won't get an headshot on your horse, outreaching pole players using your lance on the maximum possible right to exploit the leight of the heavy lance(same with 2h users, being unreachable), always charging the shot before the hit to gain the 50% to 20% bonus on damage(especially if you don't have a shield)and also a paragraph about 1v1 cav, especially on dehorsing enemy cav
Moreover I'd add the 21/15 build that imo is one of the best possible along with the 21/18(or the 18/21 with an heirloomed hlance)

 

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 06:31:34 PM »
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Nice guide!

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 07:42:03 PM »
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your use of colors along with bold are pretty straining on the eyes and annoying.

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if you go for a 1h weapon you will be able to kill a lot of footmen and archer, also a shield is a good choice, but you can't do much in horsefights with lancers, so avoid them

Looks like your post needs some updating to reflect the changes to lances recently.  1h Cav are actually much better vs other cav than they are against infantry without support.

As long as you arent dumb enough to go head on vs a lancer, 1h has quite an advantage over lancers.  Lancers typically use poor maneuvering horses and are easy prey for a 1h sword.

And I would archers too lancers who can lolracecar backstab them better than a 1h can sneak up on them.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 07:43:18 PM by Digglez »

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 07:54:46 PM »
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your use of colors along with bold are pretty straining on the eyes and annoying.

Looks like your post needs some updating to reflect the changes to lances recently.  1h Cav are actually much better vs other cav than they are against infantry without support.

As long as you arent dumb enough to go head on vs a lancer, 1h has quite an advantage over lancers.  Lancers typically use poor maneuvering horses and are easy prey for a 1h sword.

And I would archers too lancers who can lolracecar backstab them better than a 1h can sneak up on them.

Use of coulours--- to have more overviewalong with the spoilers I made.

I don't think in 1h vs. lancer fights the 1h has really got a chance, unless the lancer is a retard.

Of course its easier for lancers to kill archers, but 1h should still go for it cause archers mean little harm for 1h cavalry, since you are able to block their arrows.

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 08:41:26 AM »
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It depends what horse the lancer has and what horse the 1hander has.
For example if the lancer has a courser and the 1hander an arabian it's best if the lancer just runs away because it would be difficult beating the 1hander (assuming you aren't given the chance to engage him head on).

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 09:09:17 AM »
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They should try out my exotic build :lol:
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If there are any more new players asking for a beginner's cavalry guide, this is definitely the place I'll link 'em to.

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 10:46:06 AM »
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This guide sounds pretty good, although, my build is 18/18, I don't go for the longest one handers, I target lancers when using my winged mace or arming sword and don't die because the new lancing radius makes them unable to ever hit me.

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 11:11:35 PM »
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Guide is up to date again. Enjoy!

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 01:30:25 AM »
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How to deal with horse archers
They are your worst enemys because they can shoot your horse down in pieces. Try to dodge theyr arrows, and try to be on his right side, so he can't shoot you. Try to manouver him into a wall/ corner, not on the open field. If you have a slower horse than him, flee. But don't worry: If you are in a team of 2 or even 3 horsemen, you should be able to kill him.

You should add - "Do not chase a HA if you don't have a shield"

I kill a lot of new cav that try to follow me, they get speed bonus agaist me and die fast (compared to other people, still takes a few arrows :P)

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 09:10:01 PM »
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You should add - "Do not chase a HA if you don't have a shield"

I kill a lot of new cav that try to follow me, they get speed bonus agaist me and die fast (compared to other people, still takes a few arrows :P)

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Okay thanks, you are right, beginners don't stand a chance against good HA's so I added it ;-)

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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2012, 10:26:29 PM »
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This is my preferred level 30 build (but I'm a shielder):

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 18
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 57

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 2
    Power Strike: 6
    Shield: 4
    Athletics: 5
    Riding: 6
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6
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Re: Toffi's Cavalry guide for beginners
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 10:48:23 PM »
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Okay thanks, you are right, beginners don't stand a chance against good HA's so I added it ;-)

hehe i dont need the credit for the tip :P thx anyway...just one thing, my name has no "H", its Merc_Cris ;)
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