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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #105 on: February 08, 2017, 09:01:33 PM »
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Wow, it has been an eternity since I last posted here. I have so many questions. Is the M:BG forum still hosted by chadz? What of the investments? I don't really have any expectation that M:BG will turn out even decent at this point, so I'd rather cash out if possible.

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #106 on: February 08, 2017, 09:22:54 PM »
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this forum is still hosetd by chadz.
No one knows about investments.
Its not M:BG it is OKAM
So thats NA, why do you care about EU? Are you trying to export freedom?

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #107 on: February 08, 2017, 11:07:30 PM »
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NDA is quite serious thing :rolleyes:

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #108 on: February 08, 2017, 11:31:52 PM »
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500 million dollar serious, in case of Oculus VR vs Zenimax :wink:

No one tends to fuck with NDA's unless you have a very good lawyer and crap load of money, and most NDA's have an end date so maybe someday chadz is legally able to give his side of the story. I believe OKAM site and forums is now ran by new developers. This forum and anything crpg belongs to chadz and crew.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #109 on: February 09, 2017, 03:21:09 AM »
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well... i support crpg. fuck it. when bannerlord comes out, port all of crpg mod unto that engine. do it justice just like you did this engine justice. id pay monthly fee... shit. I started crpg almost 7 years ago. I never gave a dollar until the 67 usd to support the melee battgrounds aka OKAM project. every update and patch through crpg led to so many memories.  hopefully crpg can once again be executed properly and be profitable on bannerlord. heres hoping....

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #110 on: February 09, 2017, 06:18:05 PM »
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No one tends to fuck with NDA's unless you have a very good lawyer and crap load of money
Yes, but:
WW and chadzs ended up being him kicked out either forced to leave his own beloved project that he created, started and developed for years - any could goes worse for him at this point? :D :rolleyes:
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #111 on: February 09, 2017, 08:37:23 PM »
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Lets say Warlock Wireless have tried to meddle and push the development a way the Donkey's weren't happy with. If you cared so much about your game would you want to leave the fate of it 100% in their hands? I think it would be logical to stay on the team even if you weren't happy with the direction its going because at least then you would have some control. Now they have none at all.
I think they given 100% of it in their hands when signed that contract - "accept a deal - one that involved giving away the majority ownership, and therefore voting power, of the project we worked on for many years". And at some cases there is no more point to stay in such situation - for what sake? By your own arms drive project in wrong way and not having even a possibility to change something? Cut off features from your own game, because you have been told to, and can't change shit? And then, moreover, take all the responsibility for it before the community, because, look, before all this collapsed, no one even know that WW are in charge now - everyone blames chadz only. Maybe, it is WW who decide to postpone and keep quiet epic for undefined time - but still DC and mostly chadz took all the rage from community.
This is painfully reminiscent of the situation in some football(soccer - for NA) teams, that appears from time to time, at least in our league. There is f.e. some team with president-owner and trainer. And president in mid-season sold partof the team, the very best core players, or forced them to leave by cutting of the budget, and did not bought any new players instead, did nothing to strengthen the team. And so team starts to failing season. Who fans are blamed an outrage at first? Of course the trainer, they do not give a shit, that he can't do much with that shitty resourses that he has now. And at most cases trainers resigns at this point - nothing much they can do. :rolleyes:
It sounds more likely that they were forced out imo, rather than having a disagreement on the direction. If they were forced out why would they keep some no name coders on board? You would keep at least some people experienced with the game. Why would Warlock Wireless want 0% of the Donkies? So then I go back to some getting laid off and then they all end up deciding to go rather than be split apart. Which to me would be pretty sad
Well, yes, they were forced out, except not "rather than", but "because of" they "having a strong disagreement on the direction" and it's the reason of development team demarche in my opinion. I can't see any other particular reason beside. Not enough money? Just develop the game further, and eventually you will have tons of it. DC do not know how and in fact could not done f.e. epic with this engine etc.? Then unlikely some "outside" dev could, what the point to continue project at all?
What else could be the reason?  :|

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #112 on: February 09, 2017, 10:02:17 PM »
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Yes, but:
WW and chadzs ended up being him kicked out either forced to leave his own beloved project that he created, started and developed for years - any could goes worse for him at this point? :D :rolleyes:
If the house is burning, let the barn burn as well :D

Yes, it could go much worse for him.  I'm sure he could be held fiscally responsible for any damages due to breaking the NDA, tarnish his rep with other publishers, etc. For what?  Just to tell his side of the story to some people on the crpg forums?  not worth it
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #113 on: February 10, 2017, 06:18:12 PM »
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I wonder if contract of giving away majority of company (if this case happend we dont know for sure ) could be void and removed due pending contract with comunity from days when a lot of guys from here invested into chadz company.. maybe if you guys sign some petition hire lawyers to check on contracts and situation ..maybe we can force GMG or Warlock whatever company is now taking over of OKAM to take back DC.. :P ..a little fantasy of mine :D ..do we have some lawyers here ??? Niiii...and maybe chadz could atleast break NDA for investors and not be legali pursued based on some kind of obligation to early investors ?

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #114 on: February 12, 2017, 11:06:40 AM »
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Did that before it was cool..
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #115 on: February 15, 2017, 02:10:31 PM »
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Such silence now from the dev team...wonder what they are doing  :?:

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #116 on: February 15, 2017, 03:04:32 PM »
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #117 on: February 18, 2017, 07:22:00 PM »
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tbh the okam development almost couldn't go any worse during ea than it was going, so i guess the donkey team was just fired; if i had my money in it i'd do the same. i suspect that chadz and maybe some others are autists - really the communication skills towards the gaming community and promises were one big nonexistant lol (except for pogosan). well it always has been this way, but maybe just only this time, just only when they started to really sell the game, only that little time one would expect a little difference LUL.
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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #118 on: February 18, 2017, 07:44:31 PM »
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tbh the okam development almost couldn't go any worse during ea than it was going, so i guess the donkey team was just fired; if i had my money in it i'd do the same. i suspect that chadz and maybe some others are autists - really the communication skills towards the gaming community and promises were one big nonexistant lol (except for pogosan). well it always has been this way, but maybe just only this time, just only when they started to really sell the game, only that little time one would expect a little difference LUL.

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Re: Donkey team no longer developing M:BG / OKAM
« Reply #119 on: February 18, 2017, 09:08:04 PM »
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tbh the okam development almost couldn't go any worse during ea than it was going, so i guess the donkey team was just fired; if i had my money in it i'd do the same. i suspect that chadz and maybe some others are autists - really the communication skills towards the gaming community and promises were one big nonexistant lol (except for pogosan). well it always has been this way, but maybe just only this time, just only when they started to really sell the game, only that little time one would expect a little difference LUL.

Possible. Still it is also possible that GMG was already messing around with donkeys at that time, pushing them to EA or release of epic + things behind the scenes we can't think of. Then epic failed and donkeys had the choice of lying to us or tell us what's going on by breaking NDA and getting into really big trouble. So someone hired pogo and devs went silent.