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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #150 on: February 03, 2018, 03:41:29 PM »
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The release of the memo is simultaneously a "that's it?" nothingburger and an incredibly damaging release of classified information that will lower the public's trust in intelligence agencies and their relationship with FISA courts. The cognitive dissonance goes unadressed, of course. Oh so the memo reveals you have cancer? That's not important, the salient issue is that this will lower your trust in the organs that are cancerous, just lol. Poor FBI won't be believed by FISA courts just because they lied and misrepresented in order to intervene in the election, routinely "leaking" information in order to craft a narrative in the media. No big deal, brah! Let me tell you about how Trump is a russian puppet, though.  :lol:
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #151 on: February 03, 2018, 04:47:23 PM »
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The DNC and the Clinton campaign paid Fusion GPS for the Steele Dossier, the one coloquially known as the "Piss Dossier" because of how fucking ridiculous the claims contained therein are. The FBI used the Steele Dossier as an excuse to open up surveillance on certain members of the Trump campaign, and lied to FISA courts about the provenance of it. They hid that Steele was an incredibly biased party and that DNC/Clinton had paid for the dossier to the tune of 150 thousand dollars or so. Ohr's wife worked for Fusion GPS, another blatant conflict of interest.

Unsurprised Osiris has already brought into the "That's it? Lol we already knew all of that, changes nothing!" media spin, the exact same media who had been calling all those claims conspiracy theories not even a few days prior. It's mindblowing to me how easily idiots are manipulated. If McCain had paid for a dossier of bullshit claiming Obama was beholden to a foreign agent, and this dossier was used by the FBI under Bush to spy on his campaign, the media would've treated it as worse than Watergate. Apparently this disgusting corruption and blatant subversion of intelligence agencies for political shenanigans is A-OK when it's the "right" people doing it. And then you have the nerve to say Trump is the one routinely lying about easily proven facts. Amazing.


you are correct sir! :rolleyes: Me saying the memo is debatable (and is being debated everywhere) and that depending on your bias it means two different things is totally me being an easily manipulated idiot?
The memo changes nothing because it really wont. It wont make anti trumpians suddenly say "oh shit he was right lets support him" will it?

And i have the nerve to say Trump routinely lies because well he does?(saying Trump lies is not me supporting the democrats or the FBI.. im not a mentally challenged fanatic i can say what both sides did/do wrong!)

How dare i say a president that lies a lot is interesting to watch!  :lol: :lol: I suppose him claiming to be the most watched state of the union when it takes ooh 2 mins to tell that it is just a total lie was just alternate facts..


if your looking for someone to spew your anger and hate at maybe wait for someone to actually post the democracts viewpoint  :mrgreen:

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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #152 on: February 03, 2018, 04:53:40 PM »
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What is debatable, and how is the information revealed within changed by which bias? You realize this was classified information, yes? That it was initially never to be released to the public? That democrats faught tooth and nail to prevent it being released, and claimed repeatedly that the information within it would be damaging?  Tell me where the lie or interpretable info is. It seems very clear-cut to me. Have you even read the memo yourself? I linked it, it's not very long.
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #153 on: February 03, 2018, 05:22:33 PM »
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No you are correct it is not debatable and is undeniable fact which is why you can find no debates on it at all via google. Because as we all know no one ever creates documents that twist facts to suit their agenda (except Iraq ofc). You may agree with the sentiment of the document or you may have 100% faith that it is true and proves the wrong doing of the FBI and Clintons and whoever else, but to simply pretend like the memo is infallible and isn't to be questioned is to fail to learn from the mistakes of the past. No matter your personal views question things because it is not unreasonable that believe that both sides here are dodgy as fk

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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #154 on: February 03, 2018, 05:44:31 PM »
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The FBI has investigated the FBI and found no wrongdoing. No specifics of course, just vague allegations of cherrypicking, which could easily be proved if that was the case. It's crazy how FISA courts became nothing more than a rubber stamp for blatantly illegal acts. The surveillance program was never supposed to be used to spy on american citizens, much less for political purposes. I seriously feel like I'm living in a parralel universe, when democrats unironically defend intelligence agencies spying on american citizens because it benefits their political narrative. That Trump-Russia connection will be unveiled any day now, I'm sure of it.
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #155 on: February 03, 2018, 06:36:39 PM »
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The FBI has investigated the FBI and found no wrongdoing. No specifics of course, just vague allegations of cherrypicking, which could easily be proved if that was the case. It's crazy how FISA courts became nothing more than a rubber stamp for blatantly illegal acts. The surveillance program was never supposed to be used to spy on american citizens, much less for political purposes. I seriously feel like I'm living in a parralel universe, when democrats unironically defend intelligence agencies spying on american citizens because it benefits their political narrative. That Trump-Russia connection will be unveiled any day now, I'm sure of it.

The democrats had the power to appoint their political shills like Rosenstein into various positions for the last 8 years, Trump is just weeding them out slowly. Democrats only care about integrity when it suits their own political agenda of anti-American values.

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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #156 on: February 03, 2018, 08:08:27 PM »
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What are American values?
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #157 on: February 03, 2018, 09:31:25 PM »
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
« Reply #158 on: February 03, 2018, 11:21:47 PM »
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What are American values?
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
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Re: Trump vs Fake News
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