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Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« on: April 13, 2017, 11:00:39 PM »
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Humans are predators and are omnivores, yes. But in modern world, food industry is so huge that animals are abused a fuck lot. Not seeing daylight and growing fast af, having a terrible life in general.This is not how nature works dude.And human is not superior to other beings in the world nor more valuable. I personally love meat and animal products, however I have those things lingering in my mind all the time. I think to myself, if more people had the will to stop this whole thing wouldn't be that bad. At best what I can do currently is purchasing meaty stuff :*) from local market.

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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 11:03:49 PM »
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 11:04:16 PM »
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Vegetarianism provably lowers your IQ by about a dozen points. As a Turk, I'm not sure you can afford that.
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 11:31:41 PM »
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Is this a pasta meme?

Anyways, buy local, buy ecological etc. Vegetables and salads are dope though, but meat doesnt have to be abandoned completely. Fish is also too good, never go full vegan.

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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 11:41:20 PM »
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Yo I dig you pov,  have the same thoughts.  cant say Ill ever get my ass to actually do it though...  but its crazy inspiring to hang with those buddies of mine who fight the fight every day.
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 11:41:29 PM »
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Is this a pasta meme?

Wow is it that bad
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 11:54:57 PM »
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100% agree on abusing animals stuff. Hunting your food with bare hands while being butt naked is the only proper and manly way of obtaining meat. Buying meat at your local supermarket is equal to being a flimsy farmer who humbly trades his shitty potatoes for big boy meat. The meat that we buy isn't even "true" meat anyway - most of it is trash-tier bred animals. Only naturally occuring animals that live in the wilderness classify as "true" meat. Bred animals are practically vegetables, pork being the lowest of the low (jews have known that for a long time). I don't despise the bred animals or anything - as a bottom tier white trash, I somewhat identify with them even. We were both bred by our "masters" (humans for animals, rich fucks for humans) to slave our lives away, and then die.

That being said, I won't become a vegetarian for a very simple reason. Meat tastes good and as a unit my choice of food is insignificant. Same as democratic voting - a single vote is meaningless, don't even try to deny that. It's all about how much influence on people you have. If you were rich and widely known like Donaldo, and you turned vegeterian, you could probably even revolutionize the food industry, lots of people would follow in your steps. But if you're just an average Yusuf and no one knows you, your actions and choices mean shit.

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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2017, 01:59:12 AM »
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No

You´re better off treating meat as a luxury good (what it used to be and still should be) and try eating less but enjoy it more, also check quality and heritage before you buy

First try to eat meat less regulary on a long term and see how you like it

I couldn´t completely live without meat, we´re omnivores for a reason and vegetarians always look so withered, as if they´re lacking something vital. Our society is just overdoing it with the meat consumption and that´s an issue
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 02:10:06 AM »
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Already stopped eating meat a while ago. Not that hard with all mock meat out there and science coming up with more cool stuff for every day that passes. Plus tasty plant based stuff overall.

But you should go all the way and become vegan instead though.

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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 02:45:43 AM »
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Already stopped eating meat a while ago. Not that hard with all mock meat out there and science coming up with more cool stuff for every day that passes. Plus tasty plant based stuff overall.

But you should go all the way and become vegan instead though.
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 03:12:19 AM »
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Just get local meat or get your own animals and butcher them. No worries about needless suffering or overt abuse.

No

You´re better off treating meat as a luxury good (what it used to be and still should be) and try eating less but enjoy it more, also check quality and heritage before you buy

First try to eat meat less regulary on a long term and see how you like it

I couldn´t completely live without meat, we´re omnivores for a reason and vegetarians always look so withered, as if they´re lacking something vital. Our society is just overdoing it with the meat consumption and that´s an issue

This is true as well. I definitely eat meat too much.
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2017, 04:25:18 AM »
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I couldn´t completely live without meat, we´re omnivores for a reason and vegetarians always look so withered, as if they´re lacking something vital.

with a proper diet you don't lack anything even as a vegan, except B12 vitamin

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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2017, 08:53:23 AM »
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You´re better off treating meat as a luxury good (what it used to be and still should be) and try eating less but enjoy it more, also check quality and heritage before you buy

This middle road between meat/no meat is what I go for. If you feel so strongly that you want to cut out meat entirely, that's all up to you. Vegetarians who eat no animal flesh makes sense, if that's your thing go for it. I understand the mindset of hardcore vegans as well, but disagree with the ideology. You ARE part of the food web. Domestic animals can be raised with a high standard of living and concern for their health. I don't see any moral issue with eggs/milk/honey from farms that treat their animals with care and respect. In exchange for a peaceful life with no want for food or shelter, the livestock produce more than they need, and humans can skim this excess.

This is my personal moral opinion, but I see nothing wrong with eating meat occasionally. I don't say prayers at the table, but whenever I prepare meat I contemplate the loss of life required for me to eat it. Having this mindset made it easier for me to cut down on how much meat I eat.

As an aside, you can make some amazing and filling meals with no meat and even no animal products. Things life tofu hotdogs/cheese, chickpea chicken, and TVP burger crumbles feel like a cheap loophole. They taste inferior to actual meat and make vegetarian/vegan options feel like a shitty compromise. I'd much rather eat a well-made eggplant dish or something with beans. Hell, if you can include eggs/milk/butter then you can still make like 90% of your regular omnivore diet.

The worst part of going vegan is baking. Other methods of cooking (pan frying, braising, roasting, boiling, etc. work essentially the same. Baking is a precise art where you need control over acidity, salt content, water content, and fat content. I have had plenty of delicious vegan baked goods, but making them is like organic chemistry compared to high school chemistry. You are trying to copy the original product but throwing away most of the original ingredients. You can make plenty of "kind of tastes like X" recipes but the texture and flavor will be off. Making a vegan replica true to the original baked item takes a lot of trial and error.

Butter and eggs, man. Life without them is like life without garlic and onions. Devout Sikhs actually do cut out onions and garlic, since traditionally they are only used to season meat. Life without meat, I could probably do if my life depended on it. Life without onions and garlic? I would sooner die.
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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 11:20:10 AM »
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I don't get the animal abuse part, but yeah, not eating meat could be good for your health. Also, people who think vegans are low on energy should check out the Diaz brothers (the fighters).

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Re: Thinking of becoming a vegetarian
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2017, 11:57:51 AM »
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except B12 vitamin

Which can be easily replaced with supplements
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