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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2018, 01:11:26 AM »
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From the events described I dont know how it would be possible for either side to prove or disprove the allegations, it would only ever come back to her word against his. And she's a woman and he's a man therefore our progressive society is instantly certain that she's right and he's wrong. It's just funny that it's possible to have even a token investigation say "he's good" without also saying "she's full of shit", surely those are the same thing - unless you're willing to admit that we simply dont know for sure and never will so why bother?

It's not like this is a new thing, but the possibility of any woman at any time claiming anything they want with zero risk, to attempt to ruin a man's life is pretty hilarious. "Sexual assault ruins lives", sure, I'm also sure that convincing a good % of the nation that someone's guilty of sexual assault also has a pretty impact but noone likes to talk about that so much. The burden of proof is instantly on the man, and the woman risks nothing.

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2018, 01:12:37 AM »
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Yea unless she did something really stupid like admit it was all fabricated later, there's really no proof it happened or didn't happen and not worth anyone's time to bother.

Agreed, it would be political suicide going after the accusers, please, it might open up to some real investigations and subpoenas, and nobody wants that LOL.

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2018, 01:14:06 AM »
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I guess Kavanaugh could sue for "smearing his reputation" but I don't think he gives a fuck. The whole thing was a disaster anyway. 30 year old stuff being brought up on a she-say basis and Kavanaugh crying and pointing to his calendar and talking about hitting weights with his buddies. Embarrasing all around, as is the standard these days for America.

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2018, 01:18:12 AM »
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I'm not honestly expecting him to sue, it wouldnt be smart in the current climate.

But it's dumb that this is a subject that can take off with zero evidence, and that the accuser risks nothing and could freely lie through their teeth.
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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2018, 01:19:08 AM »
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From the events described I dont know how it would be possible for either side to prove or disprove the allegations, it would only ever come back to her word against his. And she's a woman and he's a man therefore our progressive society is instantly certain that she's right and he's wrong. It's just funny that it's possible to have even a token investigation say "he's good" without also saying "she's full of shit", surely those are the same thing - unless you're willing to admit that we simply dont know for sure and never will so why bother?

It's not like this is a new thing, but the possibility of any woman at any time claiming anything they want with zero risk, to attempt to ruin a man's life is pretty hilarious. "Sexual assault ruins lives", sure, I'm also sure that convincing a good % of the nation that someone's guilty of sexual assault also has a pretty impact but noone likes to talk about that so much. The burden of proof is instantly on the man, and the woman risks nothing.

Leaving this here, not related but fun.


I think you might be a little misconstrued, Dr. Ford risked a lot going in front of senators and in front of millions of people on television. Her life is never going to be the same, same for Judge Kavanaugh, I say that is more than zero risk. Isn't confirming the Judge, the opposite of Women are always right, Man is always the wrong argument?
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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2018, 01:25:21 AM »
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From the events described I dont know how it would be possible for either side to prove or disprove the allegations, it would only ever come back to her word against his. And she's a woman and he's a man therefore our progressive society is instantly certain that she's right and he's wrong. It's just funny that it's possible to have even a token investigation say "he's good" without also saying "she's full of shit", surely those are the same thing - unless you're willing to admit that we simply dont know for sure and never will so why bother?

It's not like this is a new thing, but the possibility of any woman at any time claiming anything they want with zero risk, to attempt to ruin a man's life is pretty hilarious. "Sexual assault ruins lives", sure, I'm also sure that convincing a good % of the nation that someone's guilty of sexual assault also has a pretty impact but noone likes to talk about that so much. The burden of proof is instantly on the man, and the woman risks nothing.

Leaving this here, not related but fun.


It just blows my mind that she waited close to 40 years, had absolutely no evidence, even her own friends don't back her claims,  and only brings it up now that he's about to get elected to the Supreme Court.  Keep in mind this lady is a professional Psychologist, Professor of Psychology and worked as a high paid consultant to Pharmaceutical companies, she is by no means the innocent naive dummy act she played in the hearing. 

I think this is just another stunt in the " i'll do anything to win, dirty partisan politics atmosphere " here in the US . Both parties are guilty of it.

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2018, 01:27:45 AM »
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I think you might be a little misconstrued. Dr. Ford risked a lot going in front of senators and in front of millions of people on television. Her life is never going to be the same as Judge Kavanaugh, I say that is more than zero risk. Doesn't confirming the Judge, the opposite of Women are always right, Man always the wrong argument?

What did she risk? A group of people saying that either they can't positively confirm her story (without claiming she's wrong) or that it actually doesnt impact his ability his suitability for this role decades later?

Because of the vague nature of her claim, she literally cannot be proven wrong. She doesnt risk her career in any shape or form, she can never be found culpable for anything. Compare that to the position Kavanaugh is in, will his life in the US be the same after this?

It just blows my mind that she waited close to 40 years, had absolutely no evidence, even her own friends don't back her claims,  and only brings it up now that he's about to get elected to the Supreme Court.  Keep in mind this lady is a professional Psychologist, Professor of Psychology and worked as a high paid consultant to Pharmaceutical companies, she is by no means the innocent naive dummy act she played in the hearing. 

I may be ignorant on this detail, but has she said what she actually wants out of this?
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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2018, 01:34:26 AM »
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What did she risk? A group of people saying that either they can't positively confirm her story (without claiming she's wrong) or that it actually doesnt impact his ability his suitability for this role decades later?

Because of the vague nature of her claim, she literally cannot be proven wrong. She doesnt risk her career in any shape or form, she can never be found culpable for anything. Compare that to the position Kavanaugh is in, will his life in the US be the same after this?

I may be ignorant on this detail, but has she said what she actually wants out of this?

She can't be proven wrong, but It could be proven that certain people conspired to fabricate the whole story if that was the case.

She wanted his nomination turned down because of the emotional trauma she went through all these years from the alleged sexual assault.

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2018, 01:37:45 AM »
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She can't be proven wrong, but It could be proven that certain people conspired to fabricate the whole story if that was the case.

She wanted his nomination turned down because of the emotional trauma she went through all these years from the alleged sexual assault.

Even if she's lying, I'd be surprised if there was some big conspiracy around this.

It sounds like her angle is that she wants to punish him personally, rather than any statement on his suitability for the role itself. Bleh.
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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2018, 01:41:50 AM »
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Even if she's lying, I'd be surprised if there was some big conspiracy around this.

It sounds like her angle is that she wants to punish him personally, rather than any statement on his suitability for the role itself. Bleh.

Considering there are Senate elections next month it could have been fabricated to delay or stall the nomination process hoping the other party would have enough votes to stop his nomination and get someone else in the court. The timing is very suspect and the Democrats loathe the idea of the Republicans nominating Justices to the court. These positions are for life and they are stacking the court with conservatives.

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2018, 01:46:09 AM »
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Ford's testimony was hilarious. The fake little girl voice was the icing on the cake.
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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2018, 01:56:56 AM »
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Liberals are certainly butthurt

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2018, 05:52:42 AM »
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Liberals are certainly butthurt

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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2018, 06:19:04 PM »
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Re: #SayNoToKavanaugh
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2018, 06:24:47 PM »
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shit we all should make donation pages.  after all how am I supposed to feel safe as a german now that murrica goes bat shit crazy and probably wont be our daddy anymore.

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