Author Topic: Jesus fucking christ, I always knew that Turks were dumb, but NOT THAT DUMB!!!  (Read 3132 times)

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.....and to think that, at one point, my plan was to have Oberyn, Panos & Reyiz riding under the same flag.......  :?
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Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.

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Oberyn, Panos & Reyiz riding under the same flag.......  :?

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Everyone saw this already, meme died, but no let's make a thread in general discussion because Turks are dumb

shit tier thread tbh
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Everyone saw this already, meme died, but no let's make a thread in general discussion because Turks are dumb

shit tier thread tbh

calm down please don't burn my flag

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Is someone trying to breathe life back into this forum?

The pathologically American amongst you may care a ton about your flag, salute it, caress it + pledge allegiance to it every day. In which case Turks burning the wrong flag should be hilarious, it's not the flag you care so much about.

Or you may see it as a symbolic gesture regardless of whether they're smart enough to get the correct flag. In which case I have to wonder why the Turks went to all the effort of getting a flag in the first place, couldn't they just burn an A4 sheet of paper and say "it's your flag" then the exact same demographic can be exactly as pissed off about it ('grrr, they declare war on our way of life by burning something that isnt what they think it is') whilst the Turks save a pretty penny in the process. Everybody wins.

Poor show indeed, I could do a way better job than this. Where's the professional pride in idiots these days? I demand to speak to their PR manager, I know the media will do 90% of the work for you these days but even so you need to give them *something* to work with.
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It's not a matter of just getting the wrong flag, it's that they really don't think there's that much of a difference between France and Netherlands anyways, it's just generally "western". You probably don't pay attention to the political rhetoric coming out of Turkey, but the all out xenophobic populist hatred against europeans in general is a surefire way to motivate turklings. I know, I know, the whole ethnic nationalism thing is totally understandable and has no consequences whatsoever when it's not a western euro country, just ignore the rise of a literal fucking fascist in Turkey while circlejerking about how Trump is totally the reincarnation of einstein and Voldermort and Sauron and etc.

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It's OK because the Dutch are chocolate chip cookies and the Turks are Crusaders
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I'm more open to the possibility that they're just stupid, than that the French flag was a political statement about there being no difference between the 2 countries. But maybe it was, either way you've got to figure they should be putting more effort into this.

As for Erdogan his 'rise' is old news, we all know he's a piece of shit. But after so long you just get tired of repeating something everyone knows, even on this forum.

Notice how even the internet has started to be less outraged regarding Trump and started to settle for the less overt more harmless level of memery that Erdogan has also settled into. Because no matter how outraged you are about either, they're a reality and you cant change that short of becoming an anime hero called 'Slayer' and hunting them down in person.

Maybe this is the long foretold anti-intellectualism struggle coming to a head, with a whimper instead of a bang. 'No more experts' heralds the age of lazy politicians, clueless nationalists and incompetent terrorists. It's like nobody's even trying lol.
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Trump and Erdogan are not even remotely on the same level. That you see a literal fascist demagogue relentlessly destroying any checks and balances on his power as the equivalent of Trump speaks volumes about how insanely distorted your perception is.

Just look at reactions in turkish social media and news outlets, since that particular flag burning has attracted international attention and mockery, the response has been claims that they were either deliberately burning the french flag and knew what they were doing or that there is no difference anyways between the countries as far as Turkey is concerned, they both represent the same thing. How about instead of being "open to possibilities" because they make you feel all warm inside you actually look into it and remove all doubt? Oh, sorry, you have Erdogan fatigue, I forgot. It's all good though, hatred of occidentals and the West is to be laughed at and treated like a joke, Hohoho look at these primitive peasants who care about such things as flags, how quaint, they're just harmless children really.

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Trump and Erdogan are not even remotely on the same level. That you see a literal fascist demagogue relentlessly destroying any checks and balances on his power as the equivalent of Trump speaks volumes about how insanely distorted your perception is.

Just look at reactions in turkish social media and news outlets, since that particular flag burning has attracted international attention, the response has been claims that they were either deliberately burning the french flag and knew what they were doing or that there is no difference anyways between the countries as far as Turkey is concerned, they both represent the same thing. How about instead of being "open to possibilities" because they make you feel all warm inside you actually look into it and remove all doubt? Oh, sorry, you have Erdogan fatigue, I forgot. It's all good though, hatred of occidentals and the West is to be laughed at and treated like a joke, Hohoho look at these primitive peasants who care about such things as flags, how quaint, they're just harmless children really.

The outrage at both have been similar levels, and similarly so have people on the internet slowly started to learn that posting about how outraged they are doesn't accomplish anything. If you choose to interpret that basic observation as me calling them the same, then that's your business.

And social media + news outlets have successfully managed to read the intent of that action? That's impressive, move aside phone hacking I guess the Turkish media has invented the mind probe! Because if I fucked up a petty public display in a very high-profile manner I'd totally just come clean and say 'rofl, wrong flag my bad' and not come up with some half-cocked excuse 'errr... it was deliberate!'. Good to see your 100% faith in the media is intact.

If the worst these edgelords can do is burn the wrong flag, then yes, their hatred is a joke and deserves to be laughed at. And hey don't get me wrong, it isnt your love of flags that makes you a quaint harmless child/primitive peasant, it's more that you believe stomping your feet and shouting online counts as 'taking action' whilst the rest of us that don't take part in your total inaction are somehow apathetic.
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I agree there was about as much outrage in the western world about Trump's election as of AKP's years long purging of all kemalists and secularists at every level of government and military, complete control over media, promotion of ethnic/religious firebrand populism and thus Erdogan becoming a practical dictator. Well maybe not. Trump's election spilled much more ink in a much shorter timeframe. It may not speak volumes about you, granted, but it certainly speaks volumes about how insanely distorted reality is through the prism of western media, at least when it comes to geopolitics.

I think there's legitimate reasons to be concerned when there's huge turkish diasporas all over Europe, and I do mean diaspora as in they do not integrate, quite the contrary. The ones most likely to be fanatical nationalists (for Turkey of course) and vote for AKP are the youngest generations, the aforemention 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants. 500K of turkish citizens alone in the Netherlands. You don't find any cause for concern in that? In the failure of integration, the cultural balkanization, the continuing stream of immigration that exacerbates it?

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Concerned, yes.

Stating that this is simply the world we live in, isn't saying that I have no desire to see it changed. Since my 'concern' alone doesn't change or accomplish anything, what action can I take? Here are the options available to me off the top of my head:

- Sign a Parliamentary Petition? This forum's already discussed what they're worth.
- Form or join a political party and go for political office as the only way to try and actually make a difference.
- Retaliatory action against the people around me that are actually pretty nicely integrated. It would be so easy if the ones in my city that wanted to destroy my way of life all wore badges.
- Keep watching, remain guarded and try to be a positive force in the social circles I can influence directly.
- Vote a certain way in a rare referendum where voters over 50years old oppose voters under 50, urban voters opposes rural, England opposes Scotland and whichever demographic has the higher turnout wins to drag half the country kicking-and-screaming across the line. And even if it goes the way you want, the government gets the final say anyway. Also, been there done that.
- Pull my hair out, shout at my computer screen and feel like I accomplished something.

The only one of those that counts as meaningful action on a significant scale is running for office, and fat lot of good that would do unless you really make it to the top. That's not something everyone gets to do, and ofc democracy ensures that any dreamers out there planning to change the world or their country in one way will be faced by an equal and opposite dreamer trying to accomplish the opposite.

Since I'm not a politician, I'm forced to choose between the sane options.

TLDR - the important question isn't whether or not I'm concerned, it's whether I can do anything sane about it. What few options are available, I take.
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K so let's just never bring it up again or discuss it cause we can't do anything about it. Kind of a lack of curiosity, but whatever. There's an entire political system designed to adress these concerns, and people are making use of them. You can think it's just insecure "anti-intellectuals" railing against "experts", but it's mostly the only choice left. It's either bombastic identitarians or the status quo. "The world we live in",  meaning in this particular case our retarded immigration policies and the ideological underpinnings for them, established by these so-called "experts" who don't have any more answers than you do for these problems, and even less willingess to change it. Don't keep being surprised at Brexits and Trumps and the like, or blaming it on dumb plebs who don't know what's good for them.

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There is a political system. Hence voting and petitions - job done. Suggest more things I can do with my entire political system plz.

What extra things have you been doing aside from what I've mentioned? Since you're criticising my lack of attention to this matter, surely you've done more than me.
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