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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2017, 10:51:19 PM »
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Pointless plot, nonsensical dialogue, completely unbelievable character motivations, prolonged "artsy" camera work that adds 90 minutes to the movie for no reason, logically inconsistent world, shitty action sequences.... what's there to like?
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2017, 11:05:53 PM »
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Great visuals, good music, atmosphere is very chill which fits the movies pace. The open idea of Deckard being a replicant or not staying unanswered and ties in with how the replicants are considered more human than the actual humans.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2017, 12:33:20 AM »
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Great visuals, good music, atmosphere is very chill which fits the movies pace. The open idea of Deckard being a replicant or not staying unanswered and ties in with how the replicants are considered more human than the actual humans.
Deckard being a replicant doesn't make any sense, and anyway it's possibly the lamest, easiest "wow look at our deep theme" cop out ever. "Haha what if we didn't specify whether he was human or replicant... not that it matters in the plot at all and in fact even WE don't know! But hey fuck it, replicants are so human that, woah, it's hard to tell them apart.... like... woah...."
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2017, 12:48:37 AM »
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Deckard being a replicant doesn't make any sense, and anyway it's possibly the lamest, easiest "wow look at our deep theme" cop out ever. "Haha what if we didn't specify whether he was human or replicant... not that it matters in the plot at all and in fact even WE don't know! But hey fuck it, replicants are so human that, woah, it's hard to tell them apart.... like... woah...."

Its not that its deep, its that its lining up with the simple plotline to make for a bit more depth that isnt spelled out like movies traditionally do it. Deckard being a replicant definitely makes sense, and could go either way. Pretty sure Ridley Scott said thats whats implied, while the actors have said that its not so, and so its up to the viewer to interpret it. A movie that makes me consider some things, even if they arent holy shit deep, is still probably going to capture me more than one that spells it all out simply because it will make me more connected to it rather than just being the observer of something that is ultimately wrapped up.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2017, 10:57:01 AM »
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Why would Deckard be a replicant when he has none of the advantages of replicants? He gets wrecked by everyone he comes across, even the pleasure replicants push his shit in and he only survives because of luck each time.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2017, 02:51:18 PM »
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  I don't think Deckard is a replicant. In the original we were made to believe Rachel was "special" because she had no termination date where as all the other replicants did. There wasn't even a hint that she could give birth, I think that was just added to make the sequel work. Deckard doesn't even need to be one for it to work either unless they are trying to say "without saying" that both parents need to be replicants in order for the conception to work.
  And if he is a replicant without a termination date and the ability to make a child why would Tyrrell plant him in the cop shop instead of keeping him to work for him and paired him with Rachel when she was finished? Putting him in the cop shop would have put his unique creation at risk one would think.
If he is supposed to be one they could have done a pretty decent prequel telling how Tyrrell planted him in the police and also telling the back story of Roy Batty and crew back when all the actors were young enough to make it believable.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2018, 05:59:44 PM »
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Free on steam a virtual walk through of Deckards apartment from 1st movie
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