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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1485 on: May 18, 2018, 02:34:58 PM »
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1486 on: May 18, 2018, 03:48:06 PM »
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1487 on: May 18, 2018, 03:59:27 PM »
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Ah yes, because having been invaded in the past means they have free reign to immigrate here whenever they like, yes? Where are you from and what ethnicity are you?


HAHAHAHAHA a fucking TURK is saying this. You should probably shut the fuck up, you retarded hypocrite sandfriend. Your backwards mudslime country was never colonized or ruled over by the West, yet here you are, along with all your fucking inbred cousins, immigrating all over Europe. What's your fucking excuses, exactly?


ottoman never forced them to speak turkish(invaded countries) havent colonized them in european way. And turkey havent accepted mass immigration like european countries because we didnt butcher eachother in the 2. war  and we had enough population to keep the country going.

im not defending the actions they do over there nor their way of life. paul is right. we've sent you our shitty inbred peasants to clean up your shitty toilets.

also im not a sandfriend. im probably as white as you are having caucasian origins and not probably a turk at all genetically.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1488 on: May 18, 2018, 04:48:40 PM »
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While Ottomans weren't as bad like French and British (they are the worst tho), they weren't good to their colonies like Austria-Hungary was. Kinda wish we never assassinated Franz Ferdinand, he had some awesome ideas how to reform his empire and Europe as a whole, which became reality after WWII. According to his plans Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia would get same status some of them have today and others are trying to get. Some one hundred years ago. Would also mean there would be no WWI and probably not even WWII.

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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1489 on: May 18, 2018, 05:04:04 PM »
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And turkey havent accepted mass immigration like european countries because we didnt butcher eachother in the 2. war  and we had enough population to keep the country going.
How dumb does someone have to be to believe Europe had to accept mass immigration from Africa and Middle East to "keep the country going" due to WW2?
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1490 on: May 18, 2018, 05:07:30 PM »
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"Our enemies are not in Moscow. Our enemies are in mosques." - Janusz Korwin Mikke
What about Muscovite mosques?
https://www.rt.com/politics/islam-inseparable-russias-society-915/
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1491 on: May 18, 2018, 05:39:47 PM »
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“I want to stress that the state’s estimation of fruitful activities of Muslim organizations is very high and the state guarantees its citizens the opportunity to follow the norms of their religion including the pilgrimage to the holy places of Islam,”

Sounds like he just wants them to go back  :lol:

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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1492 on: May 18, 2018, 06:17:02 PM »
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How dumb does someone have to be to believe Europe had to accept mass immigration from Africa and Middle East to "keep the country going" due to WW2?

i might be dumb but i know why they accepted immigration, they needed to create an "inferior" gorup of people to do the jobs their own citizens wouldnt want to do. theres no other explanation there. "keep the country going" werent the right choice of words yes. but this doesnt change the fact that they screwed up or you wouldnt all be here bitching about sand people
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1493 on: May 18, 2018, 06:24:43 PM »
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While Ottomans weren't as bad like French and British (they are the worst tho), they weren't good to their colonies like Austria-Hungary was. Kinda wish we never assassinated Franz Ferdinand, he had some awesome ideas how to reform his empire and Europe as a whole, which became reality after WWII. According to his plans Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia would get same status some of them have today and others are trying to get. Some one hundred years ago. Would also mean there would be no WWI and probably not even WWII.

im not defending ottomans. i know janissaries were slave soldier class formed by mostly serbian kids which was stolen from their families to keep their population under control and let them know that "if they rebel they would fight their own kids". also serbs are tough and big, they make good basketballers and soldiers.
yet they havent done this to the other countries they invaded or french,british,porteguisian,spanish,belgian atrocities.
if were gonna discuss imperialistic colonisation russians were the most humane because there was no people there. it was almost empty.
i hope you get the point. where theres people, there is evil.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1494 on: May 18, 2018, 06:26:09 PM »
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i might be dumb
Well, at least you acknowledge it.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1495 on: May 18, 2018, 06:30:22 PM »
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And turkey havent accepted mass immigration like european countries because we didnt butcher eachother in the 2. war  and we had enough population to keep the country going.
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You may want to google for "Wolfowitz Doctrine".

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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1496 on: May 19, 2018, 06:31:11 AM »
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i might be dumb but i know why they accepted immigration, they needed to create an "inferior" gorup of people to do the jobs their own citizens wouldnt want to do. theres no other explanation there. "keep the country going" werent the right choice of words yes. but this doesnt change the fact that they screwed up or you wouldnt all be here bitching about sand people

well, you were almost partly right.

there was (and is) no necessity or need for importation of an underclass to perform manual/shitty labor at low wages- the premise that if 3rd worlders or frankly any immigration is barred, garbage would pile up in the streets for lack of garbagemen is ridiculous. that a nigga couldn't get fries at the local mcdick's, that all floors everywhere would be permanently greasy from the acute lack of janitorial staff.

there does exist certain individuals and groups that do gain quite a bit through mass importation of unskilled laborers of varying stripes, though. that is what you should look at; what industries might be paying some good dividends for this? what political forces might want such a thing, and for what reason?
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1497 on: May 19, 2018, 07:53:37 AM »
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1498 on: May 19, 2018, 09:01:46 AM »
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maybe it'll be a refreshing change to not have Oberyn do this:

the problem is that *allowing* large amounts of individuals accustomed and satisfied with significantly lower standards of living into a host nation will drive wages in many markets down (and it is folly to think that each industry or market is independent to much degree; lowered wages in construction or similar have impact besides that direct impact on native-population construction workers)

but not only driving wages down; in most Western nations, depending on jurisdiction oftentimes in the US, there are significant welfare payments available, most ESPECIALLY when multiple children are involved. the folk generally imported do have more children than the native populations in most cases.

funnily enough, Schrodinger's immigrant sorta DOES exist, just not MY job. i am also intensely aware that the lion's share of debt-spending is not on welfare parasites or their children and is instead military spending, debt maintenance (lmao), and general US Empire shit. of course, if you import ENOUGH members of the new underclass/working welfare class, the voting demographics will undoubtedly shift enough towards candidates and policies that will give more and more in welfare payments and unrestricted immigration. this kills the nation.

(unmentioned are risks of increased crime, violence, attempted religious rule particularly relevant to places like UK, Sweden, France, etc. perspective is generally geared towards where i live)
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1499 on: May 19, 2018, 09:34:20 AM »
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well, you were almost partly right.

there was (and is) no necessity or need for importation of an underclass to perform manual/shitty labor at low wages- the premise that if 3rd worlders or frankly any immigrantion is barred, garbage would pile up in the streets for lack of garbagemen is ridiculous. that a nigga couldn't get fries at the local mcdick's, that all floors everywhere would be permanently greasy from the acute lack of janitorial staff.

there does exist certain individuals and groups that do gain quite a bit through mass importation of unskilled laborers of varying stripes, though. that is what you should look at; what industries might be paying some good dividends for this? what political forces might want such a thing, and for what reason?
To the powers-that-be there sadly does exist the need to import foreign labor to counteract population aging and decline in Western countries. Not necessarily for manual labor in particular but maintaining levels of working-age folks in general, though I have no doubt that the strength of the lobbies of certain concerned industries, such as our own very influential agricultural industry (lmao RIP Farm Bill 2018), is a factor in that equation for many politicians, as you're implying. Consider the following, from a whole 18 years ago:

https://www.un.org/press/en/2000/20000317.dev2234.doc.html

Aren't those a great couple of words? "Replacement Migration." Very Barbara Spectre. Easily my favorite UN press release of all time. You can find the same spiel in documents further decades old as well as any written yesterday by untold numbers of international treaty organizations and NGOs and such. Rather than industrial lobbies or interest groups, I would lay this at the feet of the modern welfare state itself. Social security schemes that entitle people of an arbitrary age to monetary benefits from their government, provided to them by essentially leveraging a portion of the wages of those currently employed. What does this do but make maintaining maximal employment the goal of government, to maintain its welfare scheme? That government can and will stick its fingers into a variety of pies to achieve whatever bullshit goal it finds within its purview. There are a number of other demographic reasons for Western governments to find "replacement migration" attractive, our abysmal fitness/willingness rates for military service for one, but I think the cancers we call entitlements are the most glaring and effective example.

This leads to other questions, like why are Western fertility rates so low, even accounting for rootless cosmopolitans choosing to end their lines? Is it the tofu? Or perhaps, why is it socially acceptable to import explicitly "replacement" immigrants but not to explicitly encourage native birthrates? Why is a childfree narrative encouraged so vigorously in the West while we're also told we need to be replaced by immigrants? Do Sub-Saharan Africans know about the evils of their carbon footprints?
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