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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #240 on: June 02, 2016, 11:54:28 PM »
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Now I wonder, what would have happened if I was the one saying all the things he said to me. Knowing how much cool-headed he is, I would probably be permabanned by now and everyone would find it normal. Seems like there is some kind of double standard going on.

Aslo you are playing with the words here, the rule says "don't post any real life related stuff" not information, so what he said definitly qualifies for it.

What's funny is that on any other web community I know, this guy would not only have his right removed from him but also be excluded from the community for the things he said about my family. When did Crpg forums became a 4chan annex, I was not aware we were allowed to say everything about everyone on this forum.

Plus you have Killmax  backing you, you can sleep peacefully I guess...

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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #241 on: June 03, 2016, 12:09:06 AM »
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If it was me, I'd at best mute you, and you can do the same to Bbow if he annoys you. Personally I'd want people to grow some thicker skin to insults on the internet, but I perfectly understand the wish to have such harassment limited, which is why I ask other admins to mute him if he gets too rude. And even if they aren't present, you can just mute him yourself, which also solves the problem. You'll just have to fight the curiosity to unmute him to see if he writes anything, because I know such curiosity exists. :D

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Stick to game context, don't post any real life related stuff about other community members.

What do you understand by "stuff" then? It's not everything, otherwise they'd just write "don't post anything real-life related.", so at least for me this rule is about posting actual real life information that could either be used to harass or to stalk someone from the community, none of which has bbow done. Yes, he insulted you and your family in a dumb way, and he definitely shouldn't have done that. Which is why he is warned, that this behaviour is not ok.

To Blackbow - If you want to shittalk, you should find yourself someone who can take the insults and give back, otherwise it turns into bullying and harassing, and where is fun in that?
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #242 on: June 03, 2016, 12:29:58 AM »
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I feel some kind of biais here as you seems willing to forgive him everything. Let me ask you a question, how many warnings does it take for an admin to get his rights removed ? Because as everyone can see in this thread and as Heskeytime revealed this is clearly not the first time he fucked up as an admin. How many warnings yeldurhtingale (a much better admin than blackbow imo) received ?

By keeping him in your team you kind of engage your own responsability despiste all the previous comments players and admins alike wrote about blackbow.

This will be my last intervention here as I feel i've said everything, I'll leave other people be judge of all this which they did already.

tl dr : Blackbow (an admin) harassed other players by insulting them on a regular basis,
insulted a member's familly after he dared put into question his behaviour on a feedback (!) thread and got away with a simple warning.


And btw that last sentence was really unecessary Uther...


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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #243 on: June 03, 2016, 01:35:10 AM »
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@ Heskeyworsthistimeonme : I said i dont read you because you are clearly in war and not impartial, i keep reading others.

It's not being partial to have the same expectations from you as an admin that i have for all other admins in cRPG and beyond. Maybe if you met the minimal standards of how people expect an admin to conduct themself, you'd have fewer members of the community 'in war' with you. It's not a particularly high threshold.

A surprising number of people in addition to myself seem less than happy when it comes to you being an admin, I wonder why.

But i'm sure we all just have the exact same bias against you at the same time for no good reason, and that just happened out of nowhere. Because that totally makes sense.



Well, Uther's made his ruling. See you here the next time Blackbow does the exact same thing again taking none of this 'feedback' into account. I understand how you had to scrape the bottom of the barrel a few months ago to find new active admins, hence giving Blackbow these privileges in the first place, but now the population is at an all-time low maybe it's time to consider quality over quantity when it comes to admins. I mean, if being active is the only requirement i know this really engaged guy called Killmax who's prime admin material a la Blackbow.
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #244 on: June 03, 2016, 01:41:00 AM »
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Haven't got any issues with bbow so far so I might be a bit biased but shittalk shouldn't be considered when judging admins, imo. It's a community driven mod and admins aren't employed staff, they're here only to prevent "bad" players from ruining the fun for everyone else and their personality is the least aspect we should pay attention to.

That kick is on the other side of Justitia's scale though and I'm not the one to say something about that.

On a side note: personal relationships with players is the one thing but you gotta be as opened as possible in your feedback thread and ignoring Heskey will be used against you since your position is clearly on a fence here.
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #245 on: June 03, 2016, 01:55:47 AM »
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A surprising number of people in addition to myself seem less than happy when it comes to you being an admin, I wonder why.

that's funny because it's the same peoples who are posing trouble ingame...
and the rest of ppl who are happy of my job is the silent majority who dont waste his time at stalking on forum.

there is few players who was close to be permabanned, they were very toxic and trollish
they got few warnings then got banned for a very long period
i proposed them a deal "i remove the ban if you promess me to stay cool ingame, but if you dont the sanction will be biger."
they all accepted the deal and i got very good results with those people.

but they never came here to say i did my job well because its in human nature to only complain.
only haters come here and i understand it because the class i play and they way i spit the truth to their face.

i see nothing bad calling a coward a guy who is running away from a fight.
and plz dont mix kiting and fleeing.



To Blackbow - If you want to shittalk, you should find yourself someone who can take the insults and give back, otherwise it turns into bullying and harassing, and where is fun in that?

well he never been in my harassing list it's just his playing style who make me rage sometimes and giving him some cute names...
we have all already insulted a sneaky bastard who is running away from the fight in 1v1 ...
but i got the message no harrassing on weak and fragile people and sry for the job i give you.

can i keep bjord, macro users and green arrows users in my harassing list ?

Now I wonder, what would have happened if I was the one saying all the things he said to me. Knowing how much cool-headed he is, I would probably be permabanned by now and everyone would find it normal. Seems like there is some kind of double standard going on.

nothing would happend, you cant imagine how much insult i got since i play and never did anything and when it was too much i was muting the guy.
ask to xesta.

btw that's remember me than 2 days ago i complimented you about your fights without know it was you. then you insulted me.
it made me laugh nothing else ...
i supose you are lord garithos or something ...

Lie and false accusation lol, are you also going to say that Uther Pendagragon is lying too ?http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/(ban)-merc_blackbow_the_pimp

Or is it the part where I said that you were constantly insulting me and other people on the server which you proved you were very capable of here once again ?

Keep digging...


And btw if I was lying like you say I would have already been banned for it, which I'm not, so I guess there is only 2 options left, either ban me for false accusation or remove your admin right for abusing your admin power, breaking many rules and lying about it.

i never never never never abused of my powers
during my fights i saw you camping spawn you had not this attack position, then i died went to check who was the last guy and you were still at spawn with this attack position without moving from a cm...

you intentionaly tried to trap me and was waiting for me to kick you just to say looklook he's abusing his powers ...
you were the last and afk you got kicked nothing else like all admins did before.

the day i will abuse my powers i will quit by myself.

atm the only mistake i did as admin
was banning a couch lance cavs (darkwartz something he's russian) who did a tk at round start.
to my point of view it was intentional but the guy who got tk went to me and told me it was an accident and the dark guy got unbaned imediatly
i reacted a bit to quick on this one and served me as lesson.

other mistake was when i missunderstood xesta when he was complaining about a guy ... poophammer was present
and i agree i did shit on how i managed this case.

i should maybe count as mistake the moment when ppl team hit me at spawn because i repeat them 10 times to take part to fight and they get kick instead of ban (looking at krems and you heskey)

for the rest I am serene


At the very least Blackbow decided to stop openly criticising Uther and co after Uther became head admin. I suspect big brother merc admin is responsible for that, since Blackbow has neither the foresight nor the control to have done that alone.

wait i want to undestand that one, wich critics on uther you talk about ?
are you not deforming reality ? or i have short memory ?

about others admin i keep critic them about the politic of remove polls to play in peace and dont do admin job.
it was lot of work but i got good result on peoples who were abusing polls.
at the end people was asking me if they can start a poll ... that was cute.

i still think polls should be always open, admins cant see everything and it's in player rights to be able to use them
till they dont abuse of it for the lol or personnal revenge.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2016, 03:23:16 AM by Blackbow »
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #246 on: June 03, 2016, 06:14:01 AM »
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #247 on: June 03, 2016, 09:33:31 AM »
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Blackbow,this is a very grave matter dude,i think u must make video,instead of making so many words.
Blackbow is a bad admin,he once told me sandfriend It broked all my desire from the game/forums,i felt devastated,horrible don't know how to fix it.I think admins must be example players,how can an admin can swear someone as being a sandfriend,this is very strong word in turkish,if you told that to someone in turkey you couldn't get away with it.I am admin on an counter-strike server myself i don't talk to people like that in counter-strike ,admins must behave well in game how can an admin tell so vicious words to c-rpg players.I can not resist to humiliation as big as this,i still feel insulted very much,his nick blackpimp reflects how hateful and atrocious he has no shame, i think you must remove admins as such.

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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #248 on: June 03, 2016, 10:25:38 AM »
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I was gonna say something as well. But when I read Blackbows replies, he clearly does not give a shit about feedback, unless it is positive.
Which does not happen a lot according to his own statement
but they never came here to say i did my job well because its in human nature to only complain.
only haters come here and i understand it because the class i play and they way i spit the truth to their face.

Yet if you check other admin's feedback threads, there are lots of praises in there. I wonder why this is not the case for you.


Reflect your own behavior, think how you would expect an admin to behave. Not only in cRPG, but in any game. Despite the size of this community decreasing by the minute, admins should still behave like in any other "Less family like"-community.
Maybe people will start thanking you for doing a good job in this thread as well.
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #249 on: June 03, 2016, 11:49:38 AM »
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that's funny because it's the same peoples who are posing trouble ingame...
and the rest of ppl who are happy of my job is the silent majority who dont waste his time at stalking on forum.

So everyone who thinks you're a good admin are conveniently silent. How nice to believe that.

As for the people who dislike you being the ones who pose trouble in-game, that's a fun definition given as an admin you decide what you believe to be 'trouble'. To demonstrate this point in more concrete fashion I'd like to call into reference my ban history prior to Blackbow becoming an admin, and after Blackbow becoming an admin.

I'm such a troublemaker, according only to you.
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #250 on: June 03, 2016, 12:16:43 PM »
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was just saying why i insulted you, because you rly deserve it, you dont know the word honorable and had probably some "colabo" in your familly !
during war they used sneaky tactics like you to trap honorable ppl !

so you are saying kansuke's family gave jews to gestapo during ww2 just because he shot you with an arba ?

how is that only worth a warning ?





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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #251 on: June 03, 2016, 01:27:59 PM »
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so you are saying kansuke's family gave jews to gestapo during ww2 just because he shot you with an arba ?

how is that only worth a warning ?

But thank goodness Blackbow didn't ban anyone for using the word 'friend', cos I hear that's an admin-removing offense.
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #252 on: June 03, 2016, 05:07:34 PM »
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Damn Heskey, you are one unstoppable, ruthless, indomitable son of a bitch.
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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #253 on: June 03, 2016, 05:40:01 PM »
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can i keep bjord, macro users and green arrows users in my harassing list ?

Why don't you just remove that list and teach yourself some self-control? Highly recommended by my side.
I don't remember some newer EU admin being that "strange" as you sometimes. Definitely not a positive aspect.

I'm such a troublemaker, according only to you.

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Re: [EU]Blackbow FEEDBACK THREAD
« Reply #254 on: June 03, 2016, 06:05:18 PM »
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wait i want to undestand that one, wich critics on uther you talk about ?
are you not deforming reality ? or i have short memory ?

It really began with your implicit criticism:

- i know you crpg players havent see a real admin since one year and think now crpg is a kindergarden where you can do what you want...

When called into question about this you led with another very barbed statement:

about this

i would like to apologize to tamra, i forgot him and during last year i saw him doing a good job!

I'm sure all the admins were so relieved to see that you considered tamra to be the sole exception to your ruling that the cRPG community 'havent seen a real admin since one year'. How gracious of you.

Unfortunately for the real juicy shit on pages 4-5 there was a lot of editing going on at the time where Blackbow censored his more... emotive opinions about other admins (you can see the edit time-stamps, but sadly not the original content. I should clearly 'quote' more often). And also i recall Fin doing a lot of editing as damage control to make this less of a public spectacle, an essay-length post would suddenly become a short and less committal comment whilst i was in the middle of responding to the original...

And who could possibly forget one of the few surviving indicators of the content of your original posts before you edited them on-the-fly:
edit : omg look like uther pendragon is heskey fan boy !

Based solely on downvotes/upvotes whilst you were arguing that revenge teamkill is justifiable if someone punched your horse even if you are not currently mounted on your horse.

On that subject, is it still your professional opinion as an admin that revenge teamkill is justified if someone punches your horse after you have dismounted? If so, please explain why
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