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Title: Which martial art?
Post by: Nickleback on February 29, 2020, 03:50:33 PM
 :oops: should i start judo,taekwan do or karate ,which one is more useful and why?
Or should go to damn cycling lessons to lose weight?
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: IR_Kuoin on February 29, 2020, 04:28:55 PM
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Post by: Kadeth on February 29, 2020, 09:31:24 PM
just eat once a day
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Post by: Asheram on February 29, 2020, 11:57:26 PM
You should start in kung pow
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Bronto on March 12, 2020, 12:57:27 PM
:oops: should i start judo,taekwan do or karate ,which one is more useful and why?
Or should go to damn cycling lessons to lose weight?

Judo - Steven Seagull is a huge fan, I think that should tell you all you need to know.

Tae Kwon Do - depending on the lineage is probably more sport than martial art.

Karate - depending on what kind (Shotokan maybe), is probably the most traditional. Personally, this would be my choice. You'll get beat up and learn striking/blocking, etc. Probably some grappling moves, mostly standing techniques and disarms, but not BJJ ground n pound, so you don't have to worry bout gettin a boner because you grabbed some guys taint.
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Post by: Vibe on March 12, 2020, 03:47:46 PM
Honestly just watch anime, if anime methods work for their protagonists why wouldn't they for you?
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Nickleback on March 12, 2020, 06:22:15 PM
Judo - Steven Seagull is a huge fan, I think that should tell you all you need to know.

Tae Kwon Do - depending on the lineage is probably more sport than martial art.

Karate - depending on what kind (Shotokan maybe), is probably the most traditional. Personally, this would be my choice. You'll get beat up and learn striking/blocking, etc. Probably some grappling moves, mostly standing techniques and disarms, but not BJJ ground n pound, so you don't have to worry bout gettin a boner because you grabbed some guys taint.

Well i went to the karate class but they were all kids lol


Honestly just watch anime, if anime methods work for their protagonists why wouldn't they for you?

You know that it doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Ikarus on March 12, 2020, 06:45:26 PM
karate is mostly just learning steps and wont help you a lot in a fight imo

for taekwan do you have to be really fit and you will have to go through painful lessons too, trying to break stuff with your hand/feet. You cant really go through training without at least breaking 1,2 bones in half a year. Too extreme imo

Judo is nice. It's mostly "how do I throw this enemy" and "how do I fall savely" but I think those two are super important to know in general and should be something you can do anytime in any situation. Id say this is the one Id sign up for

overall, better just do some sports in general, cycling or jogging are awesome and will give you more kardio than any of those above ever will

but Ive never had actual karate/taekwan do/judo lessons so those are just outsider opinions here
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Nickleback on March 12, 2020, 06:49:39 PM
karate is mostly just learning steps and wont help you a lot in a fight imo

for taekwan do you have to be really fit and you will have to go through painful lessons too, trying to break stuff with your hand/feet. You cant really go through training without at least breaking 1,2 bones in half a year. Too extreme imo

Judo is nice. It's mostly "how do I throw this enemy" and "how do I fall savely" but I think those two are super important to know in general and should be something you can do anytime in any situation. Id say this is the one Id sign up for

overall, better just do some sports in general, cycling or jogging are awesome and will give you more kardio than any of those above ever will

but Ive never had actual karate/taekwan do/judo lessons so those are just outsider opinions here

Do you really think when i go to taekwando lessons teacher will want me to break stuff with my foot?Are you out od youe mind kek
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Bronto on March 12, 2020, 06:58:54 PM
karate is mostly just learning steps and actually contact fighting.

for taekwan do it's a sport martial art. If you're going to the olympics or want to be the best point fighter there ever was, do this.

Judo is great for people who think throwing your opponent is more effective than punching their face.

overall, Ive never had actual karate/taekwan do/judo lessons so those are just outsider opinions here

Was about to post how wrong you were in your post but then I saw your last sentence. Carry on my non-martial art oriented friend. I've been doing martial arts for 26 years, and you know nothing about what you speak. Practicality of an art comes from your teacher not the art itself. There are only so many ways that you can punch, kick, and throw effectively. Most martial arts teach you to fall properly so you absorb the impact and don't get hurt when someone sweeps the leg.

Your instructor is more important than the type of art when you're starting out. Do any and all of these you're interested in and stick with the one that YOU like the most. Most martial arts schools/studios will allow you take a few free classes to see if it's for you. It's really that easy. You aren't learning a 2,000 year old art to go fight in feudal Japan so it doesn't matter what you pick, as long as you stick with it.

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Post by: Jona on March 12, 2020, 07:17:01 PM
BJJ would certainly be the most useful to learn if you're worried about 'real-world' fighting, however as Bronto described above at least half of their takedowns require you to 69 some other dude, so it's a hard pass from me. Taekwondo, while perhaps the least practical, always appealed to me the most. At the end of the day, you just got to do some research and find the one that speaks to you, practicality of each particular art shouldn't impact your decision tbh.
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Post by: Gurgumul on March 12, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
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Post by: Ikarus on March 12, 2020, 11:00:51 PM
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Post by: Nickleback on March 13, 2020, 06:13:05 AM
I have procrastinated my plans due to corona bs
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Post by: Torben on March 13, 2020, 12:07:37 PM
Try boxing with sparing and later mayhaps some wrestling or bjj
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Post by: Drunken_sailor on March 14, 2020, 03:52:38 PM
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Title: Re: Which martial art?Wa
Post by: Leshma on April 30, 2020, 10:13:18 PM
The best way to learn karate is to find a large glass window, get a sponge and bucket of soapy water. Take a sponge in your hand, submerge it into the soapy water, and press on the window surface. Try to cover the entire window multiple times doing circular motions with a sponge. The goal is to turn the window into a perfectly shiny and reflective surface. During the course, you will hear a lot of squeaky sounds, which means you are progressing in the right direction. When you are done with the first window, do another, and another. After dozen or so windows when your skills are honed to a decent level try doing next window while standing on just one foot. After thousands of windows on one foot try standing on a single toe. First, stand on the toe then try doing the same while standing on a single finger. After a million windows doing that you should try levitating. If you succeed, congratulations, you have become a master of karate.

The second more common way is to join a local dojo, they will instruct you and you will be assigned to a group according to your skill level. At first, you will perform a basic move (called Kihon) forward punch (oi zuki) and will do that until your arms drop off or you get good enough with it. Then you will practice other kihon. After that comes kata or form where you learn to combine those moves. There are also different styles of karate but that comes later.

Problem with second, more common approach is that you will punching air all the time and no window will get washed during the process.
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Post by: Bugnir on May 01, 2020, 10:05:49 PM
Traditional martial arts is a scam for nerds who can't fight just like how pickup artists are a scam for nerds who can't get laid. If someone is trying to physically assault you for whatever reason your best bet to win is to go to the fucking gym and hopefully be bigger than your opponent, even then if you get jumped and lose your balance you are probably fucked.

You think some 181cm D&D master taking the "leaping tiger stance" is going to win against a 2 meter neanderthal terminator with arms the sizes of treetrunks? Yeah dude just "be like water" and grab his wrist while lunging him 10 meters up in the air, just like in those kung-fu movies.
Honestly though, if you plan on learning gay shit like judo or karate to better your fighting skills a more worthwhile investment would be to buy your girlfriend a strap-on and letting her pound your ass till you cry for mercy, because that pain is what you would experience on the streets.
Title: Re: Which martial art?Wa
Post by: Bugnir on May 01, 2020, 10:15:32 PM
The best way to learn karate is to find a large glass window, get a sponge and bucket of soapy water. Take a sponge in your hand, submerge it into the soapy water, and press on the window surface. Try to cover the entire window multiple times doing circular motions with a sponge. The goal is to turn the window into a perfectly shiny and reflective surface. During the course, you will hear a lot of squeaky sounds, which means you are progressing in the right direction.

HOLY SHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH. What episode of naruto did you learn this from? Are you going to tell him how to motion the water in water balloons so he can learn the secrets of the rasengan.
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Post by: Asheram on May 01, 2020, 11:32:24 PM
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Lemon on May 11, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
BJJ/Wrestling>Muay Thai/Kickboxing>Judo>Boxing

anything else is crap and a waste of time and money

ninjedit: good wrestling clubs can be hard to come by, especially if you're out of college+outside of USA/Eastern Europe, but if you can find a good club trust me it's the best foundation for any kind of fighting. Ask anyone who trains they'll tell you they wished they wrestled in HS. If you can't get that experience, find a BJJ school. Find somewhere that competes and has a legit instructor, don't go to some chain bullshit garbage. Find a place that spars at least 30+ mins per class+ has open mats, thats when you learn the most. BJJ can be nasty and yeah it's full of uncomfortable positions but when it comes to defending yourself it's one of the best. Sambo is also amazing and I'm blessed to train under a Master of Sport but depending on location it can be really difficult to find instructors for that. Judo is legit but you have to be careful where you go - there's a ton of ex olympian/national champion Judokas who have gyms. Shouldn't be hard to find one.

Basically; Grapple. Compliment it with striking. Spar. Spar. Spar. Have a good attitude and get ready to spend years being humbled. You won't regret it.
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Bittersteel on May 11, 2020, 11:40:14 AM
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I reckon wrestling is only good in a 1v1 but I might have the wrong conception of it. Anything which teaches you the confidence to quickly take someone down seems the best since you'll probably go up against several people. Bugnir overrating size by exaggerating the amount of +2 meter meatheads walking around trying to rape you. Some 1,60m girl in northern sweden fought off 3 babbar last week. She learnt how to box by her father and grandfather.
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Post by: Rest_in_Peace on May 11, 2020, 02:23:47 PM
Pencak silat>>>>>>>>all other gay martial arts
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Lemon on May 11, 2020, 07:18:45 PM
I reckon wrestling is only good in a 1v1 but I might have the wrong conception of it. Anything which teaches you the confidence to quickly take someone down seems the best since you'll probably go up against several people. Bugnir overrating size by exaggerating the amount of +2 meter meatheads walking around trying to rape you. Some 1,60m girl in northern sweden fought off 3 babbar last week. She learnt how to box by her father and grandfather.

Boxing is great, and it works in 1v2x situations... if they are smaller than you/incapable of grabbing you. I've sparred boxers/kickboxers before. Shoot a lazy single and they're on their ass for 5 minutes.
In general, measuring a martial art by "how many people can I take on at once" is a horrible metric, because if you're outnumbered your best bet is to run/scream get help. Especially if you're a small girl. I mean fuck, if someone has a knife or a gun and you try to fight them at all you're gonna get fucked up.

If he's looking for the best martial art for self defense, the only practical situation to applying that is in 1v1 scenarios. Where again I'll go back to my point that Wrestling/BJJ is the best foundation, especially when complimented with Muay Thai (or Dutch Kickboxing)
Title: Re: Which martial art?If we
Post by: Leshma on May 12, 2020, 09:13:45 PM
Martial arts are not always practiced in order to learn self-protection. It is a sport and recreation activity.

If you want to protect yourself, get a gun. Or at least carry a hidden knife.
Title: Re: Which martial art?
Post by: Asheram on May 12, 2020, 09:35:57 PM
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Post by: Gurgumul on May 13, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
polearm is best weapon, you can carry it everywhere while wearing a robe and no one will suscept anything, they will just thimnk you're an old man. alternatively you can carry nunchaku in your sleeves, it's conveniet because the chains bend at your elbows. if you live on exotic beach where people don't wear clothes, carry a deck of razor edged cards between your ass cheeks or strapped to your thigh, under shorts - good ranged weapon. for melee, kick sand in their eyes.