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Title: [Updated Nov 12th 2015] Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 29, 2011, 12:54:33 AM
Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9245.0.html)


This guide is primarily intended to help new players, and thus is more then likely useless for more experienced players. I will update this as needed. If you see anything that is wrong, tell me so I can fix it or ignore you.

After fighting your first few battles and being gloriously slaughtered at every turn, you may have questions or frustrations, so read on to gain a better grasp on how this game works as well as any tips on the hidden etiquette. I do not expect you to read all of this, merely just the parts that you are interested or lost on.

DISCLAIMER: This was written from NA perspectives first and foremost, so read and evaluate accordingly.
EDIT: This is Rico. I am updating the thread in Tears of Destiny's stead because it has not been updated in a while, and he is inactive. I made a backup (http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/tears-of-destiny's-general-guide-for-new-players-%28backup-from-december-27-2011%29/msg1181304/#msg1181304) of the original thread. Since I am from EU, you should now get a perspective from both regions.

Sections:
1.) Etiquette, tips and expected behavior.
2.) Your Character Page, making new characters, the market etc.
3.) How to obtain top tier gear and not go broke.
4.) Equipment.
5.) Classes.
6.) Game Modes and Gameplay.
7.) Clans.
8.) Strategus.
9.) Weather.
I.). Common abbreviations and jargon.
II.) Experienced Players you can ask for advice
III.) How this forum works.
IV.) Useful pages to browse when bored.

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Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 29, 2011, 12:59:50 AM
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Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 29, 2011, 01:05:13 AM
Section I
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Thank you to the community for helping construct this guide.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Torp on June 29, 2011, 01:05:21 AM
TL;DR since i've read plenty of newbie guides and know my way around the game by now, but it looks very thought-through and it's really nice hat people take time to write well-written guides for beginners... it will hopefully result in more people staying long enough to actually experience everything cRPG has to offer.

+1

Edit: you are lucky i had to correct a minor error, otherwise i would have ended up posting before your 'reserved' :p
hope you weren't planning on using this post too
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 29, 2011, 01:11:57 AM
TL;DR since i've read plenty of newbie guides and know my way around the game by now, but it looks very thought-through and it's really nice hat people take time to write well-written guides for beginners... it will hopefully result in more people staying long enough to actually experience everything cRPG has to offer.

+1

Edit: you are lucky i had to correct a minor error, otherwise i would have ended up posting before your 'reserved' :p
hope you weren't planning on using this post too

Heh, thank you for looking at the thread and for the feedback, and no I did not need the fourth post.  :D
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 29, 2011, 01:12:44 AM
Only thing left to add is a warning: Screw cocaine this mod is adictive
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Torben on June 29, 2011, 01:15:55 AM
Only thing left to add is a warning: Screw cocaine this mod is adictive

this
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Torp on June 29, 2011, 01:31:37 AM
btw; maybe add a small list of different abbreviations (right word, no?) and terms that people use foten... like HA, Dev, Lol-stab etc.?

would also be helpfull

ps. i suck at coming up with exampels, you get the idea
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Bjarky on June 29, 2011, 01:50:39 AM
Section I
HX: Someone using a crossbow while on a horse. Sometimes referred to as HA.

or HC, alot of people use that too.
PS. nice work visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Classical on June 29, 2011, 01:51:30 AM
Love it, you planning on doing something in this format for Strategus? I.E. more in depth, and more detail? I like how it's laid out.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 29, 2011, 01:58:03 AM
btw; maybe add a small list of different abbreviations (right word, no?) and terms that people use foten... like HA, Dev, Lol-stab etc.?

would also be helpfull

ps. i suck at coming up with exampels, you get the idea

No problem, heh. See Section I, third post. I will add to it continually but slowly.

or HC, alot of people use that too.

Added, thank you.

Love it, you planning on doing something in this format for Strategus? I.E. more in depth, and more detail? I like how it's laid out.
I would be interested in doing a similar guide for Strategus, yes.  :D



Anywho, thank you all for reading this. I apologize if there is any incorrect information or mistakes, and I will do my best to fix it if brought to my attention. I will add more later on, but for today I will relax.

Thank you for your time, I hope this helps, or at the very least amuses, at least one person.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Torp on June 29, 2011, 01:59:43 AM
Damn, didnt even see that... did you have that all the time? :s
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 29, 2011, 02:02:06 AM
Damn, didnt even see that... did you have that all the time? :s

Yes, but it was originally the "reserved" post so I may have put it in just as you were typing up your reply. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Elerion on June 29, 2011, 05:03:06 PM
Good info, Tears.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Espu on June 29, 2011, 08:24:52 PM
Good effort, moved to general newbie discussion and stickied. Finish it nao!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 29, 2011, 09:24:27 PM
Unexpected but rather welcome surprise!

Thank you kindly, I will finish the rest of it when I get home!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Kafein on June 29, 2011, 10:38:50 PM
A very good start. Out of the tons of things to add, I chose one :

"Duel
These are never hooked up fully to the data base, thus while you will be able to use what your character owns as well as having your proper stats, you will not gain any gold, you will not gain any experience, and you will not suffer any upkeep.

The point of a Duel server is to practice one on one with someone. Some builds may work better in battle then in duels, and vice versa, but regardless it is a good way to practice.  Walk up to someone and press the “f” key to challenge them or to accept a challenge.

Remember not to "facehug" (see jargon section) your opponent (have a safe distance) when then duel starts. Most of the time, people come to the duel server for melee duels, and usually without shields. Stating when you want to use a ranged weapon is better. If you come with a horse, it is best to kill it when you don't use it anymore, as stray horses can bump everyone. For cav duels, try not to fight too close of infantry duels. You will block yourself and other duellers. Finally, many people consider that hitting someone knocked down in duel is a bad and despicable habit. In a more general way, try to stay as polite as possible. Rage is always badly seen, but it is even more true in duel, as you should behave like a gentleman. Consider duel servers as 5 star hotel casinos, and you'll be fine."

Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Rhaelys on June 30, 2011, 08:01:30 PM
You may also consider adding a section listing experienced players that new players can PM for advice regarding gear, builds, tactics, or other topics that may require further elaboration.

I would be willing to offer my advice on any subject related to infantry and melee.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Teeth on June 30, 2011, 08:15:28 PM
500 hours into this game and I just learned something new from this guide. Never knew you could zoom in and out on your character.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on June 30, 2011, 10:12:10 PM
Will add other things later today, thank you all.

Added Section 0
Read it to fix your game.

EDIT: Heavy modification to Section 0.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 01, 2011, 01:26:55 AM
Alrighty, double posting not editing so people notice, but Section 0 now works for sure if you follow the updated steps exactly.

I will modify and update the guide more some other day when I am not irritated at Steam...
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Garrus on July 01, 2011, 08:18:40 PM
What bugs you found in my fix ? Yes, the patch has problems, but whats buggy in the fix ?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 01, 2011, 08:23:16 PM
What bugs you found in my fix ? Yes, the patch has problems, but whats buggy in the fix ?

Re-worded guide, sorry.

I listed it as "buggy" as for a solution it does have a few small bugs, such as a slightly closer camera view, when compared to the alternative but much more time-consuming fix.

Again, re-worded.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Garrus on July 01, 2011, 08:24:50 PM
Re-worded guide, sorry.

I listed it as "buggy" as for a solution it does have a few small bugs, such as a slightly closer camera view, when compared to the alternative but much more time-consuming fix.

Again, re-worded.

But the fix is not buggy :) Warband is buggy.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 01, 2011, 08:26:17 PM
But the fix is not buggy :) Warband is buggy.

But as a solution, it is buggy. :)

I could re-word it letting people know that specifically, it will still carry forward the patch bugs, if you wish.

Oh, and +1 for coming up with the alternative solution.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Garrus on July 01, 2011, 08:30:56 PM
But as a solution, it is buggy. :)

I could re-word it letting people know that specifically, it will still carry forward the patch bugs, if you wish.

Oh, and +1 for coming up with the alternative solution.

My game looks smoother anyway, the only thing is this camera, which behaves like in Fire and Sword.
Somehow I feel the game smoother,but maybe only Placebo effect.
Yes please, mention the camera problem, its slightly closer, nightmare for horselancers,
but  if you can get used to it while taleworlds fixes it, then its the best solution.
Nobody reported crash because of this. And its very easy both to apply and to undo!
So still you can try the other way. First try this! If ok, then use it.

The point is, that it makes the smallest mess with your system.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: 7000bc on July 01, 2011, 09:47:50 PM
Why is there no "Hoplite" Class?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 01, 2011, 09:51:08 PM
Why is there no "Hoplite" Class?

Work in progress :p

Fixing the steam issue amongst a few other things has delayed me editing the classes page in all honesty. I may go about it a different way and be very general.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Garrus on July 01, 2011, 09:57:30 PM
Additionally, the point is that if you make the quick method, you don't have to disable Steam auto-update on Warband,

and you will have the fix as soon as it released, you don't have to bother anymore about this thing!
When the official fixed cRPG is out, you upgrade it in the same way, as ever.
The cause, which prevented joining was in cRPG.
The wrong female-male models are fixed already (tw reported, I didn't check it)

EDIT:
Updated:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9426.0.html
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 02, 2011, 04:32:26 PM
Additionally, the point is that if you make the quick method, you don't have to disable Steam auto-update on Warband,

and you will have the fix as soon as it released, you don't have to bother anymore about this thing!
When the official fixed cRPG is out, you upgrade it in the same way, as ever.
The cause, which prevented joining was in cRPG.
The wrong female-male models are fixed already (tw reported, I didn't check it)

EDIT:
Updated:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9426.0.html

Updated.

As for everything else, I will finish the classes on Monday, I just need to decide on which of my two drafts I like the best.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: LordRichrich on July 02, 2011, 06:22:56 PM
Perhpas you could a short section with examples on how weapon price goes up with each heirloom?
Cos idk that lol
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Kafein on July 02, 2011, 07:00:35 PM
Perhpas you could a short section with examples on how weapon price goes up with each heirloom?
Cos idk that lol

That would be rather pointless, as heirloom price increases don't raise the upkeep. But they still change the order in which your equipment is listed in the ingame equipment menu and the total equipment cost showed on the site, though.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Sphinxer on July 02, 2011, 10:24:31 PM
Very good guide !

I'd add (if you don't mind) to remind people to explain why they are about to do a poll, not doing so might result you being kicked/banned as it is an important rules in many servers...

Also, if you're connected to a server that is almost full, join a team .. as we try to have as many people as possible playing so everyine is enjoying the game. It sucks when you can't connect to a server because it's passworded, and it's passworded because there are 10 AFK spectators or people just spectating :P

But these are just minors additions , for the rest I was pretty impressive, keep the good work man !
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Earthdforce on July 03, 2011, 12:42:58 AM
Yo, add me to Section II, and I'd recommend adding a little more about the iChat and how useful it is to report someone breaking a rule to an admin instantly so we can deal with it right away...if there are any admins on, of course. ( Re-reading that makes it sound confusing, but you're better than me with words, so if you add it make it sound spiffy! :D )
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Glyph on July 05, 2011, 09:50:25 PM
my steam updated warband and now i can't play crpg anymore, i installed warband without steam and i have the version where crpg is running on via the download link, but when i try to install crpg into it. i get a very strange message.

HELP
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Templar_Ratigan on July 05, 2011, 09:55:42 PM
This is a lovely guide, but I cant help but think that some may also see it as the trolls handbook as well, especially the part about etiquette.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 05, 2011, 09:56:16 PM
my steam updated warband and now i can't play crpg anymore, i installed warband without steam and i have the version where crpg is running on via the download link, but when i try to install crpg into it. i get a very strange message.

HELP

What is the strange message?

Also, try this:

This will always have the download link of latest full version. Mirrors are often faster than the poor overloaded MBRepository.

Current version: 0.223
http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2247

Mirror: infinitum (Vargas)
(md5sum: 25146ba92b97878854b537b615df0d23)

Mirror: http://miria.no-ip.org/cRPG/cRPG.zip (Mylet)
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Glyph on July 05, 2011, 10:34:43 PM
What is the strange message?

Also, try this:

This will always have the download link of latest full version. Mirrors are often faster than the poor overloaded MBRepository.

Current version: 0.223
http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2247

Mirror: infinitum (Vargas)
(md5sum: 25146ba92b97878854b537b615df0d23)

Mirror: http://miria.no-ip.org/cRPG/cRPG.zip (Mylet)
winrar can't do something
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tristan on July 10, 2011, 03:41:57 PM
Add something along these lines:

It needs to be underlined that cRPG is not primarily about levelling your character but your own skill.
I have been playing for almost a year of warband (some 850 hours) around 9 months of cRPG. I can hardly call myself average but that is because I'm a sucker at action games.

What people need to understand is that when Georges run around with his spamberge and plate, it is not the equipment doing the kills. We see lots of failed clones. The guy (strange as it may be) actually knows how to play. I use him becuase he is a good example. New players think that they can go to level 30 buy the expensive equipment and start chopping the enemy. That is not the case.

Jorm and Bifi from my clan make more kills at lvl 23 that I do at 30 (almost...). They know how to block 95% of the attacks... I get 65% on a good day. I make a decent faint every fourth time, they make it every other. I chamber by luck, they do it on purpose.
When you start to realize this, you will find it far more fun to level your own s(kill) and not your characters.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Elerion on July 10, 2011, 05:48:00 PM
The above is very true.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 11, 2011, 12:58:08 AM
Will update again on Monday. Until then...

1. Click 'you must update your login'
2. Pick one of your characters and enter their password (I used my main)
3. Choose a site account and password (you will use this to log in with from now on)
4. Click done
5. Log in
6. Pick one of your characters from the list
7. If they don't show up, wait a few minutes, clear your cookies, refresh, try again.

I will start updating this Guide once at least 5 day have passed without a hotfix or a website update.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Digglez on July 13, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
why not put this info into the wiki and actually make it useful~

Most noobs arent going to read forums first, wikis are more inviting~
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 13, 2011, 08:42:53 PM
why not put this info into the wiki and actually make it useful~

Most noobs arent going to read forums first, wikis are more inviting~

I used to be on the Content Staff for the twcenter.net wiki and I am extremely tired of coding stuff into any wiki, anywhere, and make it look nice.

If anyone wants to replicate this on the wiki, be my guest.

Good suggestion though.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Digglez on July 13, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
I used to be on the Content Staff for the twcenter.net wiki and I am extremely tired of coding stuff into any wiki, anywhere, and make it look nice.

If anyone wants to replicate this on the wiki, be my guest.

Good suggestion though.

If you put your content into the wiki, someone could easily clean it up for you, at least thats what I'm planning on! haha.  I was bored and hate the lack of documentation for new players in cRPG, so I started messing around on the crpg wiki.  You would be a valuable ally!

You, me, waltf4, that that eliosomething guy that does some badass info posts
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 22, 2011, 07:10:42 AM
Right, all current information has been updated to the latest patch besides the specifics of upkeep. If anyone can give me the exact numbers (or at least the rough numbers) of upkeep that would be fantastic as the 4% chance per tick of 5% item price no longer applies. Even a rough ballpark figure (Example: Less then 3% chance at 7% upkeep) would be great.

Also added a bit more information to other areas. Once again, feel free to point out errors.

Next afternoon I should be able to finish the "Classes" part as I figured out how to write it up.

If anyone has specific details about strategus I would greatly appreciate it to help flesh out the strat part.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: isatis on August 08, 2011, 01:52:40 AM



Click on Skip the fun for details, but be warned that you are only allowed one STF character at a time, and it has a 7 week cooldown before you are allowed to make another. It is important to realize that once a character is made into an STF it can not be respeced, and is an STF until deleted. Remember that characters created using the “skip the fun” feature will not be able to use the market place even if it is set as your main character.


hi tears, your guide is awesome!! but you have made one mistake!! (ok maybe more but I just founded one...)

the STF cooldown is 7 days/1 week not 7 weeks!

Hope you'll finish it soon!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 08, 2011, 01:58:06 AM
*facepalm*

Thank you!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Askorti on August 14, 2011, 11:11:52 PM
I don't want to make a new thread for such a simple(and maybe a little bit stupid) question, so I'll just post it here. (if it's wrong, then tell me, and I'll move)
Some weapons in one handed section have "second mode". It means, that I can use them as two-handed, right? If yes, then I'll use them "well" if I have high 2h proficiency, right? I know it might be a stupid question, but I want to be 100% sure.
I'm making an archer character with 2h as secondary weapon, and I'm a little bit disappointed with mace. It's not bad weapon, but have small range, what sometimes is a bit annoying. so I though, that I might switch to "military sickle" or "fighting axe" and use it's secondary mode. (because they use 1 slot)
What do you think about it?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Rhaelys on August 14, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
You are correct. The Military Sickle, Fighting Axe, Langes Messer, and Mace are the most popular 1-slot two-hand-style melee weapons for archers and crossbowmen.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Askorti on August 18, 2011, 06:33:39 PM
OK, another rather simple(I think) question. what does it mean, that a weapon take "0 slots"? And how can I use them with 4 other things?
As for now, I'm a bit disappointed with my archer character, so I though, that I might to try play as a peltast (light thrower). That 0 slots thing came to my attention, when I was looking at amount of ammo in thrown weapon. Can I take 4 bags of javelins and some knife(which take 0 slots) to that too?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 18, 2011, 08:08:00 PM
Maybe you could add some builds in your class section, i can help with 2h/pole, shielder, thrower, shielder/thrower builds
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Panoply on August 18, 2011, 09:08:22 PM
Hey Tears, maybe you can... I don't know... FINISH YOUR DAMN GUIDE! Ya lazy bum. :P

Also I highly recommend cannibalizing this thread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9160.0.html

Of course, with Marathon's permission. Or at the very least, linking to it.

<3
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Earthdforce on August 18, 2011, 09:45:48 PM
Also I highly recommend cannibalizing this thread: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9160.0.html

Also I highly recommend cannibalizing

cannibalizing

:DD

Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 23, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
OK, another rather simple(I think) question. what does it mean, that a weapon take "0 slots"? And how can I use them with 4 other things?
As for now, I'm a bit disappointed with my archer character, so I though, that I might to try play as a peltast (light thrower). That 0 slots thing came to my attention, when I was looking at amount of ammo in thrown weapon. Can I take 4 bags of javelins and some knife(which take 0 slots) to that too?

Your character has four boxes and four slots.
Every item on the right side used for weapons/ladders/etcuses exactly one box. However, items also take up 0-3 slots as well.
My archer for example uses a warbow (1 box 2 slots), and two arrows (each 1 slot one box). This leaves me with a box left but no slots, so I can use a 0 slot hammer for example to fill the remaining box.

For the other responses:
I shall look into it and consider help!
I should really finish this guide, there is only a wee tiny bit left to do anyways, heh.

Also, I had no idea you were into stuff like that Panoply, we should hang out. <3
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Njunja on September 04, 2011, 11:04:42 PM
Thanks for this guide, it answered some questions for me. :)
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: musketer on September 08, 2011, 04:22:35 AM
how can i create a character? it says that i must create a website or something to manege my char and i write the password but it says: password must contain numbers and upper and lowercase letters. I dont understand this, can somebody halp?, i wrote many many paswords and nothing  :mad: :? :!: :!: :!: :!: :?:
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Glyph on September 08, 2011, 07:42:10 AM
how can i create a character? it says that i must create a website or something to manege my char and i write the password but it says: password must contain numbers and upper and lowercase letters. I dont understand this, can somebody halp?, i wrote many many paswords and nothing  :mad: :? :!: :!: :!: :!: :?:
you have to have normal letters, abc and ABC letters, you also heve to have a number in it. but have you played already?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Stirling_Mortlocke on October 23, 2011, 08:20:42 PM
I can't seem to figure out how to select your role. Could you guide me?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 23, 2011, 08:39:14 PM
Hmm, I may need to update the guide for that. I think it is now on your character stat page on the very bottom, try there to set your Main.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Stirling_Mortlocke on October 23, 2011, 10:04:10 PM
I have set my main already, but my role is still undefined. Perhaps I need to level more.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Earthdforce on November 25, 2011, 06:57:19 AM
You could update the jargon list..
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 27, 2011, 09:47:33 PM
You could update the jargon list..

I noticed that Panos is now Panos  :lol:

I'll add that to the list, as well as any others that i can think of. Anyone else thinking of terms, feel free to post them if they are commonly used.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Earthdforce on November 27, 2011, 09:53:38 PM
I noticed that Panos is now Panos  :lol:

I'll add that to the list, as well as any others that i can think of. Anyone else thinking of terms, feel free to post them if they are commonly used.
I really should untick the box so my words are actually censored just to see how the forum changes :\.

List of what I can think of:


Kiting
Str
Agi
Admin

Will update when I can remember/think of more
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 23, 2012, 01:43:08 AM
Will do a heavy rework again soon, addressing the new character page and a much larger list of very useful threads. If someone wants to compile a proper description of rageball that I can copy and paste (similar to my other described game modes) then I would be overjoyed and promise not to shitpost in any of your threads (think of how rare a treasure that is).
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Angantyr on February 12, 2012, 11:34:02 PM
Do anyone remember who calculated the 'amount of reach added to weapon length due to animation' data?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Earthdforce on February 12, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
Do anyone remember who calculated the 'amount of reach added to weapon length due to animation' data?
Probably WaltF4
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Rhaelys on February 12, 2012, 11:42:36 PM
Do anyone remember who calculated the 'amount of reach added to weapon length due to animation' data?

http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,118906.msg2872758.html#msg2872758
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Angantyr on February 12, 2012, 11:53:56 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Angantyr on February 15, 2012, 04:04:41 PM
Despite you writing it is a 'rough' estimate perhaps add the following to the 'amount of reach added to weapon length due to animation' section for clarification?

Data on 1h and 2h should be somewhat accurate, when I got to polearms I just wanted to get done faster so they may be off a cm or two.

And (in red),

Standard = Onehand overhead (+0)

1h
Overhead = +0
Left-to-right = +0
Right-to-left = +19
Thrust = +61

2h
Overhead = +15
Left-to-right = +17
Right-to-left = +13
Thrust = +80

2h Polearms
Overhead = -15
Left-to-right = -7
Right-to-left = -2
Thrust = +19

1h Polearms
Thrust = +50

*DISCLAIMER*
This test was done against a dummy, with modified weapon lenghts. Margin of error is probably around +/-3. For your information, testing this with no information about the reaches took a lot of time. If you want more accurate results you'll have to do it by yourself.

edit:
Or perhaps just update it with this one http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,25086.0.html
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Mallets on March 19, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
Hey Tears, if you could, add STF = Skip the Fun to the Common Abbreviations section of the Guide.  I remember seeing it for the first time, and having no clue.

And thanks... the guide is very helpful!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 19, 2012, 12:03:28 AM
Done!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Ethgar on April 05, 2012, 09:44:02 PM
Very helpful information.  Thank you for the time you put into this Tears.  Helps a bunch being new to the mod, and not the game.   


-Ethgar-
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Orchid101 on April 11, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
An acronym being spouted in Battle(not directly at me): "dsl".
I decided to look it up on Urban Dictionary and all that taught me was that it stood for "d**k sucking lips". May I assume dsl is somewhat more game related?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Xant on April 11, 2012, 05:29:27 PM
Duck sucking lips? Dark sucking lips? Dork sucking lips? Deck sucking lips? Why use censorship and leave us guessing?!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on April 11, 2012, 05:32:45 PM
An acronym being spouted in Battle(not directly at me): "dsl".
I decided to look it up on Urban Dictionary and all that taught me was that it stood for "d**k sucking lips". May I assume dsl is somewhat more game related?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_subscriber_line

Either a rather vague insult, or more then likely the above link.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Orchid101 on April 11, 2012, 06:22:38 PM
Being called a digital subscriber seems quite flattering compared to the former! Thanks!

And Xant, you got it all wrong man. The insult is clearly aimed at 9-to-5 desk suckers!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Infestage on April 28, 2012, 11:09:26 PM
I thank you ToD for extensive work on behalf of newbs I like to think that I do not fall in that category, however, I did find your guide to be very useful
thank you

with humble regard, Infestage
HOLD FAST
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Turkhammer on November 19, 2012, 05:21:08 PM
Perhaps this kind of info is here in the guide but I could not find it:

I was in a siege battle last night and people were referring to "Battalion Two" and hitting PP to see it.  At first I had no idea what they were talking about.  Then I was able to see the marker showing were the flag was located.

I'm just wondering what other kind of keystrokes/functions there are that I'm not aware of.  Perhaps could be a good addition to the guide if it's not already there.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 19, 2012, 10:22:26 PM
After finals I'll give the guide an overhaul, was mainly waiting for the website layout to stabilize and it finally did.


Due to the marvelous Game Mechanic thread, my guide will be more conceptual and less "hard numbers." No need to say the same thing twice.


Thank you all oh so kindly for your help!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Rico on January 03, 2013, 03:14:47 AM
@Tears

Heya)

Thanks for your great guide, it helped me a lot when I was new))) Please consider adding the teamspeak adress of Peasants United to the section called "II.) Experienced Players you can ask for advice". Peasants United is a clan for new players, the members are either beginners or trainers to help them to get good at cRPG.

Here it is:
teamspeak adress (Nditions > cRPG EU clans > PEASANTS UNITED): 62.104.20.250:10027

Thank you ^_^
Rico
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 25, 2013, 05:07:06 PM
thanks rico, thanks for idling in that ts adress. for the moment i am kind of inactive on ts, but we also have a IRC chat group wich works pretty good atm.

http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=peasantsunited

atm we have enough people to idle during the day, but as the NA base of trainers is rather small, we dont have any trainers online at night atm. it will change i hope
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: TurmoilTom on March 21, 2013, 09:46:29 PM
Add me to section 2 of your 3rd post for build planning and melee advice. After all this time I think I have a half-decent idea of what the hell I'm actually doing and because I'm constantly stalking this forum I might as well do some good while I'm here.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: alismortem on August 11, 2013, 01:20:55 PM
Was not sure of where to ask this. Can someone please explain heirloom points past level 31, titles, and how many heirloom points, you get by going beyond level 31?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Falka on August 11, 2013, 01:36:08 PM
On the character page (http://c-rpg.net/?page=charstats) it shows you the experience needed for the next level.

LevelXpHeirloom pointsTitle
318.735.8431
3217.784.8062
3337.332.2773Veteran
3480.873.1405Master
35180.977.6448Grandmaster
36418.780.85013Legendary
371.003.125.95421?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: alismortem on August 11, 2013, 01:58:59 PM
TYVM
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: MrDeucer on September 28, 2013, 09:34:12 PM
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Reaktor_Rus on October 07, 2013, 04:58:43 PM
Good people, why in the name of hell I'm using a share account? I created an account. actually, it was already created but the game told me to log into that account called "Fallen_Reaktor" . Everyday somebody is creating a new character on the same account. That account is MINE or is a share account who is using it a lot of players? I change the password for nothing, the next day is a new one. And why "Fallen_Reaktor" ? I didn't choose this or use it.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Pawlov on February 12, 2015, 12:41:03 PM
Thanks  :)

One thing: You didn,t mention anything about custom banners.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: njames89 on April 29, 2015, 08:46:47 PM
Someone should go through this guide again and upload a version to MODDB. If no one else wants to I can start going through it getting it ready to post there.
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Gurgumul on May 29, 2015, 01:11:25 AM
I have a few questions, but don't want to start a new thread:
1. How do I keep improving after hitting a wall? It seems like I've learned what I could, and now can occasionally block an attack, and rarely chamber one. I try to play as much as I can, but I'm not getting any better, still quite shitey. I've never received any valour either. It seems like the biggest problem to me is the well-equipped players who one-hit me and I don't do any damage to them, I just can't really learn anything without a chance to actually learn. I thought about training in single player, but even the most difficult AI is predictable, unlike players.
2. How do I get good equipment while still earning good gold? Farming with cheap gear is less fun than already losing every fight, and using good gear only occasionally, when I can afford to upkeep it sounds even less fun.
3. Is there any way to turn Strat silver to cRPG gold? I don't really play Strategus as it's confusing to me, and have over 1k silver that I have no use for.
Seems like every other player is constantly getting better while I remain the noob I was  :(
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 29, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
I have a few questions, but don't want to start a new thread:
1. How do I keep improving after hitting a wall? It seems like I've learned what I could, and now can occasionally block an attack, and rarely chamber one. I try to play as much as I can, but I'm not getting any better, still quite shitey. I've never received any valour either. It seems like the biggest problem to me is the well-equipped players who one-hit me and I don't do any damage to them, I just can't really learn anything without a chance to actually learn. I thought about training in single player, but even the most difficult AI is predictable, unlike players.
2. How do I get good equipment while still earning good gold? Farming with cheap gear is less fun than already losing every fight, and using good gear only occasionally, when I can afford to upkeep it sounds even less fun.
3. Is there any way to turn Strat silver to cRPG gold? I don't really play Strategus as it's confusing to me, and have over 1k silver that I have no use for.
Seems like every other player is constantly getting better while I remain the noob I was  :(

A good way to get better is to go on the duel server and just fight people. You'll lose like 1000 times and then the 1001st duel you'll perform slightly better. Then you do a 1000 more and you'll get slightly better. Eventually you'll be doing slightly okay. To make good gold, get on EU or NA DTV when they are populated(like 10+). On the later waves you'll be making ~3k gold a pop. Join NA or EU ones regardless of ping, if you work well with your team you can easily still perform well with 100+ ping. Unfortunately for strategus, you cant change silver to gold and 1000 silver is actually very little. If you want to get into Strategus, try applying for one of the factions and asking them to teach you. If you are NA you can join the strat faction I'm in, and if not you can always message me(Tristan_of_Erzoth) either on the forums, in game if you see me, or on steam(profile is in my forum sig).
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: IamMe on August 22, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
WHen to sue which damage type?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Boondock188 on September 03, 2015, 06:31:37 AM
If you respec before your free respec, is there a longer wait time for another free respec?
Title: Re: Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Macropus on September 04, 2015, 01:07:03 AM
If you respec before your free respec, is there a longer wait time for another free respec?
I believe it is, you have to wait one week since your last respec, no matter free or not.
Title: Re: [Update Pending] Tears of Destiny's General Guide For New Players
Post by: Rico on November 12, 2015, 03:48:50 PM
Guide is now up-to-date except throwers, HA, HT and cavalry. Feel free to write something smart and I'll include it.

Upkeep section still subject to change depending on the finalized upkeep system.