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Title: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Cassi on April 01, 2018, 05:51:36 PM
Its been quite a bumpy road since Prof and James took over the mod and they did an awesome job.
But now, as both are having busy times in real life, I finally made a step into developing myself since Prof is temporarily wheelchair bound after he broke his left knee in the car accident he has been involved in as he told us on discord.
So here are the first patch notes from the changes you can expect in the next large update.

There is a lot of new stuff coming as BETA, so please be aware there might be a lot of bugs and glitches you will experience, mostly with the strat stuff and the DTV changes.

DTV:
Cassi: New round Gondor implemented after sexies, wearing plated armor and barbute like helmets. Archers are plated, some are supposed to be rangers. Plated cavalry will spawn on 3rd wave. Hero: Aragorn - heavy mail and sword of war
Cassi: New round Arabs implemented after peasants wearing turban and sarranid clothes + sandals or barefooted, throwing smoke bombs and stones mostly. Turn off particle system if you experience lag. 3rd wave will spawn with mules and donkeys. Hero: Kebab Master spawning with butcher knife, fastest hero in the game so far.
Cassi/Prof: AI pathfinding reworked: Bots are now supposed to jump if encountering an obstacle. They are now able to jump over fences or probably shieldwalls (horses).
Cassi: Bots ranged wpf is nerfed by up to 50% (exponentially increasing on higher rounds). This is because tincans/sexies will shoot down the vivi mistress on sight, and considering shes flying you are not even really able to protect her.
Cassi: Sexies renamed to Krems because of the constant annoying screaming.
Cassi: Because of the wpf nerf to ranged, bots are now supposed to have infinite ammo, this goes for throwing weapons aswell (also heros).
Cassi: changes to the hero "chadz" on 3rd tincan wave. He is now spawning in pilgrim disguise and unarmed and is supposed to steal gold from you if he punches you, this however is not easy to code and is still in work!

Strat:
Cassi: increased crime by 10% for any fief
Cassi: chadz made a lot of other buildable siege equipment but never finished most of them. So I gave it a try and tried to finish the ram (was virtually 95% done). I will try to include this in this patch already, but having it bug free will have priority. It looks exactly like the native mount&siege server ram, just better working and movable like a siege tower. It will damage the gate like a catapult does a wall, but has higher defense.
Cassi: loot should be fixed for any battle type.
Cassi: Large factions will now experience minor handycap such as slower growing army or higher crime rates in general in order to prevent superior factions like we have seen in the past (UIF etc).

Battle:
Cassi: Team names changed from eg. "purple team" to the name of the clan with the most players active. eg.: if there are 3 kalmars playing and 2 Krems, faction name will be "Kalmarunionen". On equality it will be the faction with the higher score.
Cassi: Throwing lances nerf reverted.
Cassi: Throwing weapons damage is buffed by 20%
Cassi/Dupre: racism detection system. The logs are now going through a detection system looking for racial slur. If detected, the player will be muted if still playing and will be banned for 1minute if he already left. This however is to leave a notification on the ban record for other admins. The whole system can take over several minutes after the racist word has been said since the logs arent updated instantly.
Cassi: Horse archers horses will not be able to maneuver while drawing their bows. In order to ride properly you will have to leave your bow undrawn.
Cassi: shields wont break as fast as they do now. Their lifespan should be around 50% longer in average.

I might be missing some things, will add them if I think of them.

Looking forward to a lot of feedback, it will be my first try to do stuff in this mod ever.
Patch is supposed to come at the end of next week...hopefully

your sincere, Cassi.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Dalhi on April 01, 2018, 05:58:15 PM
Pls no wipe. We have 10 times more players online than Nord Invasion.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Cassi on April 01, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
Pls no wipe.

no wipe
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Dalhi on April 01, 2018, 05:59:46 PM
no wipe

Thank you.
Now I can log in to Merc mode to play some siege.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: BlackxBird on April 01, 2018, 06:05:37 PM
Cassi: Throwing lances nerf reverted.
Cassi: Throwing weapons damage is buffed by 20%

http://forum.melee.org/spam/krems-tutorial-on-how-to-empty-server-in-2018/msg1276240/#msg1276240

dood.

Edit: lol, didnt even notice what day is today. U got me
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: DaveUKR on April 01, 2018, 06:06:40 PM
You got fooled, mod is ded.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Sagar on April 01, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
I don't know ... there is not much players around ... maybe wipe will be good?

Is it possible to do a "Wipe Test".
1. Backup base
2. Wipe all
3. Tell everyone "we have new cRPG Beta - all start from 0 peasant"
4. See what will happen - maybe mod will rise from ashes ...

At the end we will have new fresh player-base with more populated servers ...
If nothing happen ... return base backup and throw a key.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Sharpe on April 01, 2018, 09:17:55 PM
I know its April Fools, but I do kinda like the Kebab Master idea...
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: RD_Professor on April 01, 2018, 10:40:36 PM
thanks for the hard work cassi! glad to finally see someone competent in charge
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: RD_Professor on April 01, 2018, 10:45:17 PM
I don't know ... there is not much players around ... maybe wipe will be good?

Is it possible to do a "Wipe Test".
1. Backup base
2. Wipe all
3. Tell everyone "we have new cRPG Beta - all start from 0 peasant"
4. See what will happen - maybe mod will rise from ashes ...

At the end we will have new fresh player-base with more populated servers ...
If nothing happen ... return base backup and throw a key.
in seriousness yes that idea is 100% possible and would take less than 10 minutes to implement. not that it will or won't happen, just saying that it is very easy to do
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Bittersteel on April 01, 2018, 11:39:14 PM
lol obvious joke when cassi doing any task that requires >90 iq
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 01, 2018, 11:51:13 PM
lol obvious joke when cassi doing any task that requires >90 iq

Exactly, cassi doing coding lol....(s)he would struggle with renaming a text file.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: emirso2 on April 02, 2018, 03:18:09 AM
Ram seems promising...
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Asheram on April 02, 2018, 03:29:20 AM
Happy April Fools
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 02, 2018, 04:30:11 AM
I got excited then i realised its april fools :c Oh well back to other games.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Dalhi on April 02, 2018, 09:17:38 AM
in seriousness yes that idea is 100% possible and would take less than 10 minutes to implement. not that it will or won't happen, just saying that it is very easy to do

Stop hesitating, just do it. James will recover from depression after week or two.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on April 02, 2018, 10:12:04 AM
Cassi/Dupre: racism detection system. The logs are now going through a detection system looking for racial slur. If detected, the player will be muted if still playing and will be banned for 1minute if he already left. This however is to leave a notification on the ban record for other admins. The whole system can take over several minutes after the racist word has been said since the logs arent updated instantly.

fucking F I N A L L Y
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Sheogorath on April 02, 2018, 02:17:15 PM
omg you didn't even bother to organize like god professor lol ,you couldn't even reach the perfection of god professor ,his creation is art thou cannot make.I didn't even go like oh shit fuck for 1 sec :D nice try though demigod cassi
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Kadeth on April 04, 2018, 07:30:06 AM
I don't know ... there is not much players around ... maybe wipe will be good?

Is it possible to do a "Wipe Test".
1. Backup base
2. Wipe all
3. Tell everyone "we have new cRPG Beta - all start from 0 peasant"
4. See what will happen - maybe mod will rise from ashes ...

At the end we will have new fresh player-base with more populated servers ...
If nothing happen ... return base backup and throw a key.

if only a lideral genius tier mountain blade legend had been proposing something like this regularly for the last couple years.....
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Paul on April 04, 2018, 09:17:55 AM
I used to be a developer like you but then I took a dashboard to the knee.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Drunken_sailor on April 05, 2018, 01:31:05 AM
Happy April Fools
best video ever
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Afina on April 05, 2018, 09:28:03 PM
Delete this shit, fucking update. Bring back last version. we have only bug heal line, item bug, i lose all +3 weapon and armor, clan armory lose too. Stop make this shit.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Sylfirus on April 05, 2018, 09:53:14 PM
My +3 German greatsword turned into a +3 practice longsword Deutsh Kalit├Ąt ! 
I think i lost a bit in the deal here... :lol:

I wont talk about the rest of my inventory cause its totally messed up.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Dathus on April 05, 2018, 10:18:08 PM
I don't have my items  :(
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Cassi on April 06, 2018, 12:10:25 AM
haters

my update is awesome imo, just needs to work now
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Jona on April 06, 2018, 12:17:57 AM
Leave it to a dirty krems to kill the mod once and for all  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: RD_Professor on April 06, 2018, 02:31:19 AM
hey guys don't be mean to cassi, i struggled a lot when i started working on this. and i still struggle now too! thankfully unlike me cassi is competent, and will do wonders as head deve after this transitioning period

i'm handing everything over to cassi, including my social security number, so that i can spend my days leeching on dtv like i've always dreamed, while leaving the mod in safe hands
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Afina on April 06, 2018, 09:07:19 AM
hey guys don't be mean to cassi, i struggled a lot when i started working on this. and i still struggle now too! thankfully unlike me cassi is competent, and will do wonders as head deve after this transitioning period

i'm handing everything over to cassi, including my social security number, so that i can spend my days leeching on dtv like i've always dreamed, while leaving the mod in safe hands
if you give all to Cassi you kill this mod xD
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: RD_Professor on April 09, 2018, 06:48:14 AM
if you give all to Cassi you kill this mod xD
yeah not like all of this was a long elaborate plot to kill the mod, definitely not
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: McKli_PL on April 09, 2018, 10:09:22 AM
Leave it to a dirty krems to kill the mod once and for all  :rolleyes:
well krepels have good experience in killing the mod, not like those potatoes :wink:
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Allers on April 10, 2018, 04:01:35 AM

Cassi/Dupre: racism detection system. The logs are now going through a detection system looking for racial slur. If detected, the player will be muted if still playing and will be banned for 1minute if he already left. This however is to leave a notification on the ban record for other admins. The whole system can take over several minutes after the racist word has been said since the logs arent updated instantly.




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Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Cassi on April 10, 2018, 07:44:19 AM
Only works for Eu1, Eu7 and Eu3 yet sorry.

But it is most welcome to report those players manually on NA(official)
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Cassi on April 02, 2019, 01:28:19 AM
was a good meme tho
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: coucouleloup on April 02, 2019, 10:22:12 AM
i hope mod isn't dead. i came back and every day i see , more players.

Like u know, i played lot at this game. i'm at 40 millions of level 39, so you can imagine how much  i played, and i noticed many things about the game and what's players don't like in it.

1) First: remove or limit(buffing ?)those shitty weapons like Miaodao. i can say that many players are coming to challenge, and they disgusted to be humiliate by miaodao players who spam them to death , blocks are only way and u can 't strike. I regret that miaodao players didn't  notice how important is EGo in this game , they ruining the game and are reponsible of massive defections on servers. they should grow a little and never forget that if they taking pleasure it's because others are here to play with them. Some players will say i'm bad, perhaps it's true, but now there's only good players, skilled,and i'm one them too, imagine reactions of new players...disgusted in few days.

2) throwing : you fixed many throws weapons to 1 slot to 2. it's a big mistake. Why taking jarids or throwings spears(3 or 4 ammos)+ a 1 slot melee weapon( 1h or 2 h) when u can have 4 throwing lances with polearms wpf. if u compare damages and ammos ratio, jarids and throwing spears are useless. Put back to 1 slot those throws and removed ability to throw random lances to players without  PT. throwers aren't the problem, the problem is everyone could throw without PT.

3) archers : damages are too high, and ratio at their advantages, lot of ammos, they can pick up back arrrows. Reducing damages, don't allow them to pick up back arrows, and increase stun to make them a good support for the team, could be a way.

4) builds: i continue to make strenght builds, cause i don't want to  destroy the challenge. i prefer to know that i killed someone on battlfield, cause i well done , not because  the agi build did it.
Why not limiting the AGI stat to counter this problem or increasing the cost of points u need to invest in character if u want to go more than 21 or 24 agi ?

the wipe: why not ? but i don't think the problem is here. A skilled player will be a skilled player, and wipe will not soluce everything.

Finally, sorry for my shit english, i hope u understood me.


HardraaDa.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: _Kurak_ on April 02, 2019, 04:25:57 PM
I agree with the comrade on points 1 and 4.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: DaveUKR on April 02, 2019, 05:59:35 PM
i hope mod isn't dead. i came back and every day i see , more players.

Like u know, i played lot at this game. i'm at 40 millions of level 39, so you can imagine how much  i played, and i noticed many things about the game and what's players don't like in it.

1) First: remove or limit(buffing ?)those shitty weapons like Miaodao. i can say that many players are coming to challenge, and they disgusted to be humiliate by miaodao players who spam them to death , blocks are only way and u can 't strike. I regret that miaodao players didn't  notice how important is EGo in this game , they ruining the game and are reponsible of massive defections on servers. they should grow a little and never forget that if they taking pleasure it's because others are here to play with them. Some players will say i'm bad, perhaps it's true, but now there's only good players, skilled,and i'm one them too, imagine reactions of new players...disgusted in few days.

2) throwing : you fixed many throws weapons to 1 slot to 2. it's a big mistake. Why taking jarids or throwings spears(3 or 4 ammos)+ a 1 slot melee weapon( 1h or 2 h) when u can have 4 throwing lances with polearms wpf. if u compare damages and ammos ratio, jarids and throwing spears are useless. Put back to 1 slot those throws and removed ability to throw random lances to players without  PT. throwers aren't the problem, the problem is everyone could throw without PT.

3) archers : damages are too high, and ratio at their advantages, lot of ammos, they can pick up back arrrows. Reducing damages, don't allow them to pick up back arrows, and increase stun to make them a good support for the team, could be a way.

4) builds: i continue to make strenght builds, cause i don't want to  destroy the challenge. i prefer to know that i killed someone on battlfield, cause i well done , not because  the agi build did it.
Why not limiting the AGI stat to counter this problem or increasing the cost of points u need to invest in character if u want to go more than 21 or 24 agi ?

the wipe: why not ? but i don't think the problem is here. A skilled player will be a skilled player, and wipe will not soluce everything.

Finally, sorry for my shit english, i hope u understood me.


HardraaDa.

1) Game balancers are faster than you :D Miaodao is already nerfed, I guess it wasn't noticed. Miaodao lost 2 damage in one of the patches during recent DDoS attacks.

2) Yes, I agree. Jarids and throwing spears are definitely underdogs. It will be addressed. Speaking about random lances without PT, I agree with that as well and we will fix it also.

3) Pierce damage archers are very limited with ammo while cut archers aren't supper effective against plates. We actually _do want_ them to pick up ammo and get out of their comfort zone. Increasing stun even further could be a complete toxic change because ranged stun is already the longest stun in the game.

4) A lot of items got their Strength reqs increased a lot recently and speed bonus for melee was decreased a bit. I don't think that full AGI is meta (that would mean light armor), especially with CUT archers who shred AGI runners and cav bumping to death. Strength and Agility is quite balanced right now IMO.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Asheram on April 02, 2019, 08:38:44 PM

4) builds: i continue to make strenght builds, cause i don't want to  destroy the challenge. i prefer to know that i killed someone on battlfield, cause i well done , not because  the agi build did it.Why not limiting the AGI stat to counter this problem or increasing the cost of points u need to invest in character if u want to go more than 21 or 24 agi ?
So have you ever played an agility build, if you have not how do you know theres no challenge? I have a 12/30 character 4ps is a challenge bro. Sounds more like you want native to me which has set stats of the nation you are playing as. cRPG is all about builds and playing dress up.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Yeldur on April 02, 2019, 11:11:46 PM
i hope mod isn't dead. i came back and every day i see , more players.

Like u know, i played lot at this game. i'm at 40 millions of level 39, so you can imagine how much  i played, and i noticed many things about the game and what's players don't like in it.

1) First: remove or limit(buffing ?)those shitty weapons like Miaodao. i can say that many players are coming to challenge, and they disgusted to be humiliate by miaodao players who spam them to death , blocks are only way and u can 't strike. I regret that miaodao players didn't  notice how important is EGo in this game , they ruining the game and are reponsible of massive defections on servers. they should grow a little and never forget that if they taking pleasure it's because others are here to play with them. Some players will say i'm bad, perhaps it's true, but now there's only good players, skilled,and i'm one them too, imagine reactions of new players...disgusted in few days.

2) throwing : you fixed many throws weapons to 1 slot to 2. it's a big mistake. Why taking jarids or throwings spears(3 or 4 ammos)+ a 1 slot melee weapon( 1h or 2 h) when u can have 4 throwing lances with polearms wpf. if u compare damages and ammos ratio, jarids and throwing spears are useless. Put back to 1 slot those throws and removed ability to throw random lances to players without  PT. throwers aren't the problem, the problem is everyone could throw without PT.

3) archers : damages are too high, and ratio at their advantages, lot of ammos, they can pick up back arrrows. Reducing damages, don't allow them to pick up back arrows, and increase stun to make them a good support for the team, could be a way.

4) builds: i continue to make strenght builds, cause i don't want to  destroy the challenge. i prefer to know that i killed someone on battlfield, cause i well done , not because  the agi build did it.
Why not limiting the AGI stat to counter this problem or increasing the cost of points u need to invest in character if u want to go more than 21 or 24 agi ?

the wipe: why not ? but i don't think the problem is here. A skilled player will be a skilled player, and wipe will not soluce everything.

Finally, sorry for my shit english, i hope u understood me.


HardraaDa.
No problem dude, I appreciate your points.

Miaodao alongside Baguadao have both recently been nerfed; we're trying to solve the issue of weapons like this just being the go to weapon if you want to just dominate the shit out of people; the problem is also that really good tier players are abusing them which makes things worse. Time will tell if the nerf we gave fixes the issue, however if it doesn't we will deal with it when we get there.

I don't really want to comment on thrower as I don't have experience playing the class overall so I'm going to not leave my own opinion on this one; however if other throwing weapons are indeed too weak then we'll look at that.

Archer right now has already received some pretty massive nerfs in the form that they don't have anywhere near as much ammunition as they used to, they will always be the subject of people spamming to nerf them. The problem is that too many people play them and that causes a bad experience for all. Now that we have a ranged limiter implemented this isn't an issue on the battle servers anymore, or rather shouldn't be.

Strategus is a really hard one to call on as we have already done some fairly significant changes that mean that some archers will be top tier, other archers won't be that great. The skill of the player remains however not every nation is viable for archers. - Overall archers are always going to be strong in siege battles because of how it calculates damage, it also factors in how high up they are, so if they're up high and you're down low you're going to take much harder damage than before, especially if you're wearing weak gear. Ranged will always be the most annoying class in the entire game to balance because there isn't a way to balance them perfectly. It's not possible (at least in a c-rpg players eyes) - We can keep tweaking but overall I think it will lead nowhere.

I don't think limiting peoples playstyles is going to do anything other than cause people to quit. With archers it's almost become a necessity due to EU just not changing. (Once the change is fully developed we'll see much better balance as Administrators will be able to set the numbers, so don't worry NA my old friendchers, you're not going to be stuck for long, it's a temporary thing!) Already we saw a bit of pushback by limiting ranged, overall we need to be very careful how we manage it because it can and will have an effect on the population. Tweaking classes? Yes. Forcing classes away? No. That sort of thing is a last resort.

I've done some testing as a 2h playing 18/27 and 27/18 and I noticed no difference in the damage at all which astounded me; overall, the difference is that AGI is better used by skilled opponents who have footwork and blocking down quite well, whereas worse players can do a lot better if they wear heavier armour and go with a balanced/STR build, because overall the damage looks to be the same. I have to do more testing on this but that's the information I've gotten so far.

The general game isn't being reset, strategus however will be at some stage.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Asheram on April 02, 2019, 11:46:09 PM
I've done some testing as a 2h playing 18/27 and 27/18 and I noticed no difference in the damage at all which astounded me; overall, the difference is that AGI is better used by skilled opponents who have footwork and blocking down quite well, whereas worse players can do a lot better if they wear heavier armour and go with a balanced/STR build, because overall the damage looks to be the same. I have to do more testing on this but that's the information I've gotten so far.
I dont know about 18/27 and 27/18 but my 2 1h chars Skillless, who was 27/15 and my agility char Asheran who is 12/30 theres a noticeable difference, I do alot better on Skillless.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: San on April 03, 2019, 06:08:25 AM
Since PS and speed bonus are just damage multipliers, you want both at a reasonable level -- balanced builds or semi-balanced builds should all be great to use. Speed bonus makes up for the damage loss, but below 6PS and you start to lose out on damage. I think that 12/33 and 15/30 are more competitive than 12/30.

To me, 15/30 > 18/27 > 15/27 despite the small increase in tankiness on 15/27.

The new system has been quite a bit more chaotic, but it makes sense with all this activity. Glad things are pretty self sufficient right now and people are able to enjoy the game.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: McKli_PL on April 03, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
The new system has been quite a bit more chaotic
the problem is not chaotic aspect, rather than rewarding randomness and stupidity, and maybe thats why alot of most dedicated crpg players are still on merc mod, with super trash and ez mechanic but less random as faaaak :(
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Yeldur on April 03, 2019, 07:18:26 PM
Since PS and speed bonus are just damage multipliers, you want both at a reasonable level -- balanced builds or semi-balanced builds should all be great to use. Speed bonus makes up for the damage loss, but below 6PS and you start to lose out on damage. I think that 12/33 and 15/30 are more competitive than 12/30.

To me, 15/30 > 18/27 > 15/27 despite the small increase in tankiness on 15/27.

The new system has been quite a bit more chaotic, but it makes sense with all this activity. Glad things are pretty self sufficient right now and people are able to enjoy the game.

I'll do some tests on some even wider builds like 15/30 & 30/15, see if I can spot bigger differences
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Asheram on April 04, 2019, 02:34:53 AM
the problem is not chaotic aspect, rather than rewarding randomness and stupidity, and maybe thats why alot of most dedicated crpg players are still on merc mod, with super trash and ez mechanic but less random as faaaak :(
I wouldnt really call them most dedicated crpg players if they play mercs when crpg is available. The random is what makes it fun, for me otherwise I would play native.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: DaveUKR on April 04, 2019, 09:57:08 AM
the problem is not chaotic aspect, rather than rewarding randomness and stupidity, and maybe thats why alot of most dedicated crpg players are still on merc mod, with super trash and ez mechanic but less random as faaaak :(

People play Mercs because they have consistent population unlike cRPG. Even if we make cRPG better in everything than Merc mod, people still wouldn't migrate for many reasons. Also getting pop is a slow process unlike losing pop. If I started working on a mod that had bigger than 0 population, it would be easier.
Title: Re: patch v0.5.4.0, changelog and announcement
Post by: Sheogorath on May 08, 2019, 12:53:24 AM
People play Mercs because they have consistent population unlike cRPG. Even if we make cRPG better in everything than Merc mod, people still wouldn't migrate for many reasons. Also getting pop is a slow process unlike losing pop. If I started working on a mod that had bigger than 0 population, it would be easier.
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