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Please specify how item classes should be changed: (v0.223)

Buff horses
192 (7%)
Buff armor
162 (5.9%)
Buff one handed weapons
195 (7.1%)
Buff two handed weapons
140 (5.1%)
Buff polearms
98 (3.6%)
Buff shield
120 (4.4%)
Buff thrown
264 (9.6%)
Buff bow
151 (5.5%)
Buff crossbow
85 (3.1%)
Nerf horses
144 (5.2%)
Nerf armor
80 (2.9%)
Nerf one handed weapons
79 (2.9%)
Nerf two handed weapons
180 (6.5%)
Nerf polearms
209 (7.6%)
Nerf shield
117 (4.2%)
Nerf thrown
89 (3.2%)
Nerf bow
153 (5.5%)
Nerf crossbow
174 (6.3%)
Leave everything as is. (overrides all other options)
125 (4.5%)

Total Members Voted: 973

Voting closed: May 31, 2011, 02:13:07 PM

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2011, 08:19:29 PM »
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sounds like cav is how it should be... Sounds realistic not to mention you could always brind a fucking PIKE!!! or maybe watch your back? huh? huh? what ya think?

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2011, 08:21:25 PM »
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I voted to nerf bow/polearm: but only the speed of the bow, not damage, coz they look like machine gun sometimes.
About polearm, only the pike seems little bit unrealistic, too fast. But i also think some polearms should take less slots, or would be quite hard to defend yourself by horsemen.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2011, 03:44:54 PM by Gatsby »

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2011, 08:22:27 PM »
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I selected few choices that deserve nerf: horses, 2h, polearms, bow.

I think that best 1h weapons need to be slightly nerfed too (elite scimitar, broad battle axe or however it's called nowadays).
I think that most maneuverable horses need their maneuver reduced by few points (3-4) and generally horses dominate atm.
I think that damage across the board for 2h and Polearms need to be reduced across the board.
I think that bow damage need to be reduced slightly.

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2011, 08:24:56 PM »
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Buff armour so that killing people doest just requires spamming greatswords in melee so much luck and plate is more effective for the money.

Reduce polearms sing speed but give greater damage making distinction between faster 2h and higher damaging polearms.

DONT nerf horses any further, if anything they should receive a minor rebuff.

everything else should be NERFED! ;)
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2011, 08:30:51 PM »
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Most of the things seems pretty balanced at the moment, and buffing or nerfing all a category of one sort would be totally unbalanced.

Horse's maneuver are a bit too high. A lot of HA and lancers takes advantage of that (with the arabian warhorse mostly) and aiming at HA or dodging a couching lance is harder than before.

Bows and Xbows seem pretty balanced. Even though at high level they shoot quite fast, we shall remind people that the ammo limit makes it useless to "machinegun", at least for foot archers with a melee weapon. HA with 3 quivers may be a pain though, but if we limit the number of max quiver to 2, every ha will have a melee weapon and will probably have more kill with it than with it's bow.
Throwing is a bit underpowered though. Too few ammo for too few damage. I have seen 3 throwers in one day of play, they're close to disapearing wich is... a shame ? No, maybe not, i hate them. But it's a bit sad still. A little buff would be welcomed for them.

High level polearms are quite fast. Maybe too fast. But a mear -1 speed might be enough.

But overall, if nothing's change, i won't regret it, my polearm/long spear alt is still doing decent.
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2011, 08:33:50 PM »
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PLEASE:

1) Buff horses. ATM they are not worth the money they consume.

2) Buff 1H speed. They are supposed to be fast and light. For my 15 str 21 agi char  it takes 3-4 hits to kill a medium armored guy, while most 2 handers kill me in my heavy armor with 1 hit. IMHO its not fair.

3) Decrease shields weight OR increase 2 Handers and polearms weight. I frankly donst understand how small wooden shield can weight 2 times more than huge 2 hander steel sword or axe....

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2011, 08:39:35 PM »
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Well i'm a shielder and i think that some 1h swords got nerfed too much, now a MW long espada eslavona has only 30 cut damage, with 6 PS i bounce a lot of times against enemies with  a decent armor, try it yourself... except  the side sword i  don't think that 1h swords were OP in the previous patch.
For what concern other classes... i think horses got nerfed a lil too much ,2h are fine,  maybe polearms stun for too long.

P.s i noticed that many people now use the scimitar ( a mw scimitar does 35 cut dmg which is ok imo), so i don't think that you solved the problem nerfing the damage of the other swords... i mean a Mw Eslavona in the old patch did 33 cut dmg , how can it be OP? you also nerfed pierce dmg.

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2011, 08:42:39 PM »
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can you pls nerf HA, in the way of penalty using bows on horse, like speed of reloding? or make them play only in 1st view style

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2011, 08:44:22 PM »
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Nerf everything able to kill me


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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2011, 08:45:15 PM »
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I voted to buff throwing a bit, as I think it got a little over-nerfed in the last patch, and has subsequently dissapeared from the servers. Also, 2h and pole should get a nerf, as they simply outclass everything right now. Maybe not spears, but definitely swinging polearms.
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2011, 08:47:30 PM »
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can you pls nerf HA, in the way of penalty using bows on horse, like speed of reloding? or make them play only in 1st view style
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2011, 08:51:17 PM »
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I voted for Buffing armor, nothing dramatic, just +10% armor on all body armors. With all the strenght builds and ranged spam these days, I think it will improve the gameplay and would also make ironflesh a bit more useful than just a place to dump extra skillpoints into.

Also voted for nerfing polearms, the only needed nerf is removing polearm stun. The old argument was 2H have lolstab, polearms have stun - since 2H don't have lolstab anymore, there is no reason for polearms to keep their stun. Removing it would make 2H and polearms equivalent : 2H have better speed and animations; polearms are longer, a bit more damage (+bonus vs shields for high tier polearms) and offer more versatility.

As for cav, the only necessary change would be adding a trample sound that can be heard from distance. Now you only hear it at point blank when unless the cav misses you are already dead, and having a horse silently gallop towards you is a bit silly.

Generally cRPG is more balanced then ever, apart from the things I mentioned above, only some internal class balancing is needed (for example Huscarl is still by far the best shield, Arabian Warhorse the best horse, etc).

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2011, 08:55:31 PM »
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to answer this really honestly I would have to play each item class with a proper char first. but i try to get a feeling what should be changed when playing next.

right now i'd say horses could reveive a minor buff and throwing but thats only guessing. also higher armour could be a bit more effective against ranged again, maybe more slowing down to compensate.

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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2011, 08:56:10 PM »
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I selected few choices that deserve nerf: horses, 2h, polearms, bow.

I think that best 1h weapons need to be slightly nerfed too (elite scimitar, broad battle axe or however it's called nowadays).
I think that most maneuverable horses need their maneuver reduced by few points (3-4) and generally horses dominate atm.
I think that damage across the board for 2h and Polearms need to be reduced across the board.
I think that bow damage need to be reduced slightly.

Nerf 2h more? lolol. Man they alrdy suck atm. why do you think so many left it ? even im wondering about it :P
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Re: Official Survey about item power
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2011, 09:00:40 PM »
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Result of the vote; it is easy to predict.
Most people play with 1h +2 h + pole + xbow, naturally wish to nerfs the archers / HA / Cavs / throws.
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