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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 02:06:18 PM »
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2012, 02:09:24 PM »
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Good rule.
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2012, 02:43:16 PM »
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2012, 02:49:42 PM »
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Also which of the examples do you want specified?

If you do such a trade and do not realize that minutes after seeing the trade happened, you will not get anything back, nor will you if you use that money since the trade will be fully reverted which means the other side of the trade will get his/her gold back as well.

EDIT: Removed some "obviously"s.
It amazes me that common sense seems to be very very rare in this community or some people just try ignore it to make a point.

It's hard to get common sense from people when they can profit from something themselves.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2012, 03:25:40 PM »
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Yeah...Mail Mittens+3 for 550k is a fair trade to some people... >_>

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2012, 03:34:19 PM »
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Yeah, that was one of the two people who were the main reason why we introduced this rule.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2012, 03:39:05 PM »
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One Little Question: You are going to buy a loompoint and accept a offer "stones for a +1/+2 item" and you had the deal: item gets loomed and then youself put offer up "600k for +2/+3 item". What happens if the Guy just ignores you after you accepted the offer? So you lost your item and he gets +1/+2 for free. Will there also be justice?

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2012, 03:57:28 PM »
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That's called scamming and gets the guy perma banned.

We are doing that for a few month now and there was not a single case of this happening in a while.

Just report those cases directly to me.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2012, 04:01:58 PM »
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Great improvement on marketplace security.
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2012, 04:02:20 PM »
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marketplace very very bad !!

injustice ! !
 I love Marketplace but

 a very difficult game, marketplace and hit hard

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 04:26:30 PM »
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Finaly and thanks.
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 04:26:32 PM »
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Also which of the examples do you want specified?

If you do such a trade and do not realize that minutes after seeing the trade happened, you will not get anything back, nor will you if you use that money since the trade will be fully reverted which means the other side of the trade will get his/her gold back as well.

EDIT: Removed some "obviously"s.
It amazes me that common sense seems to be very very rare in this community or some people just try ignore it to make a point.

It is common sense that rules should be clear. It is common sense that common sense is subjective and subject to change. It is common sense that anything unclear in rules can and will be used to justify unjust punishments. It is common sense that interpretation should be kept away from the law. It is common sense that never stops drawing us back into uncreativity and obscurantism. Ideas never progress with common sense. Common sense isn't logic, for there aren't any clearly defined concept or rules in common sense. As such, it should be ignored as much as possible when people try to make a point.

I love how we all are (rightfully) screaming about the Patriot act or SOPA, yet somehow doing the exact same thing ourselves isn't a problem.

However, I do understand this is a game, and a minimum of goodwill and benevolence is expected from everybody. Just like with 99% of the mods out there, the development and administration aren't and never were democratic, as well as not being required to be.

I'm fine with this rule personally, I just don't like the fact that nobody points out the problems that can and will emerge when we will have borderline cases. Let's say I fucked up the item selection, and sold my +3 heavy lance instead of my +3 KAS, but for the KAS price. Determining wether I actually got scammed is hard because it depends on the relative value of the HL and KAS.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 04:29:58 PM »
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What about old trades? Or mistakes rather.
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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 04:31:40 PM »
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sold my +3 heavy lance instead of my +3 KAS, but for the KAS price. Determining wether I actually got scammed is hard because it depends on the relative value of the HL and KAS.

Obviously not. It isn't hard to determine if you use some Good Sense. HL and KAS both have relatively similar prices. You're not trading a +3 item for 1500 gold, you're trading them for 1.1 million instead of 1.3 million, maybe. Something like that, something sensible for a +3 item in any case.

What about old trades? Or mistakes rather.

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Re: New Market Rule
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2012, 04:50:25 PM »
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A "confirmation" option to be added to the seller side would solve this problem and also facilitate trading by eliminating the need of intermediate items and allowing people to choose specific buyers...